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    BlazeFang's Avatar
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    Tsukino Tora
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90

    Unhappy Another MSQ roulette post: We need change on some level

    So, I was just subjected to the half the party leaves Castrum event and I got to say it's dumb and it should be an actionable offense besides the penalty. You willingly queued into a roulette and left when it wasn't the one you wanted. You know the risks involved when queuing into it. You are affecting other peoples experiences when you do this and then they have to requeue into it and have to wait however long it takes.

    I understand things can happen and you have to leave, sometimes at the very beginning of a duty, but for those that intentionally do it, yeah you know who are, should be some form of actionable punishment.

    Luckily my group just pugged it: Me as Reaper(Tank), Dancer, Ninja and Astro. It took us 32 mins to do it from start to finish with cutscenes included so no excuse as to why

    So there needs to be change on some level for it whether it be an actual offense or some thing much more milder than that. I'm just looking out for other rather than myself.

    Thank you for listening to my TED talk whomever you are!
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    I just hope they get those ARR instances reworked for 6.1.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    There is a penalty. We don't need to make it more. The game can't hold you hostage. Sorry if that's not what you want.
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    Rayne Wolfhart
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    I dont really mind getting Castrum for msq roulette tbh. Its called a Roulette for a reason xD i ran into people sometimes that leave Castrum for Prae. Stop wasting people’s time and just fricking do it lol
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    There is a penalty. We don't need to make it more. The game can't hold you hostage. Sorry if that's not what you want.
    Only for the first one, everyone that follows is free (those Mexican standoff are rather funny at Castrum). As I said before, in another topic, just enforce "join in progress" for that roulette (any roulette tbh) to ensure replacements and be done with that. Sure, some will get stuck in a loop but a roulette is a roulette, is someone want an specific dungeon that person should que for it.
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    Tlachtga Ereshkigal
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    why is this playerbase so vindictive?

    you can't hold people hostage. everyone should be free to leave a duty, regardless of the reason. they get a 30 min penalty for doing so, and that increases with further abandons.

    Cape Westwind, Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium should instead be reworked into a solo duty,m maybe with AI companions, and MSQ roulette in its current form either removed or changed to only include Crystal Tower Alliance raids.

    instead of trying to punish the leavers ( a symptom) the root cause should be tackled;
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    Kirika Yuumura
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazeFang View Post
    So, I was just subjected to the half the party leaves Castrum event and I got to say it's dumb and it should be an actionable offense besides the penalty. You willingly queued into a roulette and left when it wasn't the one you wanted. You know the risks involved when queuing into it. You are affecting other peoples experiences when you do this and then they have to requeue into it and have to wait however long it takes.

    I understand things can happen and you have to leave, sometimes at the very beginning of a duty, but for those that intentionally do it, yeah you know who are, should be some form of actionable punishment.

    Luckily my group just pugged it: Me as Reaper(Tank), Dancer, Ninja and Astro. It took us 32 mins to do it from start to finish with cutscenes included so no excuse as to why

    So there needs to be change on some level for it whether it be an actual offense or some thing much more milder than that. I'm just looking out for other rather than myself.

    Thank you for listening to my TED talk whomever you are!
    It is an actionable offense.

    TIP...If you are queued for MSQ Roulette and get Castrum:
    1. Once the instance starts (the pen around the group disappears), swing your character's camera view around to see the party face on and take a screen shot. Wait till after the pen disappears, otherwise those who are still in cut scene will have their names as "Viewing Cutscene" in your party list.
    2. If players drop right after the searchlights are switched off (just after the first cut scene) and/or before the first "boss fight", take another screen shot.
    3. After the completion of the dungeon, tab out of the game and open the two screen shots.
    4. From the screen shots, you now have the names, jobs, appearance/race, and time frame of who dropped, you can also look up the names on the FF14 website Community/Character Search page to narrow down to the exact player via their World Server (just sort by your Data Center) in-case the same name is used for different characters. You can match the character's appearance/race vs your screen shots to be sure you report the correct individual. You don't need to keep or submit those screen shots, you are just using them as a "notepad" of sorts to have all the party names and times shown.
    5. Copy the character name from the search page to paste into your report.
    6. Open your in-game menu and go Support Desk/Contact/ and report Harassment.
    7. Fill out with the information; Date/Time, violation description "Griefing party via dropping from active instance", paste in the character name(s) and their World Server, and submit.

    The whole process should take only a few minutes tops.

    Those who dropped will be punished.
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    Last edited by Kirika-; 01-17-2022 at 03:35 AM.
    Kirika Yuumura of the Noir

    The Soldats' Manor, home of the Noir and of Noir's Eorzean Natural History Museum and Aquarium
    Plot 7, Ward 22, Shirogane, Faerie

    Noir... It is the name of an ancient fate. Two maidens who govern death; the peace of the newly-born Noir hands protect.

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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Just turn them into one-time solo duties for story progress and end the drama.
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    N'kilah Razhi
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    If you did the whole dungeon with only 4 people and no one else joined, it means one of you (the leader) did not click the recruit more party members button. I have never had to wait more than 1 or 2 minutes for the instance to repopulate, even if almost everyone else has left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirika- View Post
    snip snop
    That... sounds like a lot of work for something like that when the system could just be better.
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    My outline for a Chemist healer: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/513527-Healer-Concept-Draft-Chemist

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