doing endwalker and no Minfilia

[MilkieTea]

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I'd like to point out that a ton of zoomers grew up having to read a lot too ahah, at the very least the target demographic of this game. Fanfics that were 150k+ words, Homestuck (which is still considered one of if not the longest webcomic), other webcomics, mangas and JP subbed animes, books. In fact subbed TV is becoming more and more popular as South Korean media becomes more widely spread and the western audience consumes more.

No, the real problem is lazy, impatient people across all generations. I'm not bringing them up to be disparaging, far from it, but generally speaking the newer people coming over from WoW tend to have the hardest problems with long cutscenes. The games lore is spread across multiple different mediums and most people don't take the expanded effort to consume it, and because they've been a part of a game like that for so long, they just assume it's the norm. It doesn't help that other games, namely New World, BDO for example, also put more of a focus on the player rather than the lore. Not that this is a problem solely coming over from WoW, but considering OP comes from WoW I'm going to bring up that I think that might be the case here.

And for people who's gaming experience isn't tied to MMOs, but to things such as triple A games like GTA, voiced cutscenes are the norm with non-voiced cutscenes being unnecessary to access the story of the world around them. It is definitely a culture shock.

I'm one of the lucky ones in that my gaming experience started with non-voiced things such as RPG-maker games, the sims, etc. So having to read didn't phase me as much.

[Eraden]

I'd like to point out that a ton of zoomers grew up having to read a lot too ahah, at the very least the target demographic of this game. Fanfics that were 150k+ words, Homestuck (which is still considered one of if not the longest webcomic), other webcomics, mangas and JP subbed animes, books. In fact subbed TV is becoming more and more popular as South Korean media becomes more widely spread and the western audience consumes more.

No, the real problem is lazy, impatient people across all generations. I'm not bringing them up to be disparaging, far from it, but generally speaking the newer people coming over from WoW tend to have the hardest problems with long cutscenes. The games lore is spread across multiple different mediums and most people don't take the expanded effort to consume it, and because they've been a part of a game like that for so long, they just assume it's the norm. It doesn't help that other games, namely New World, BDO for example, also put more of a focus on the player rather than the lore. Not that this is a problem solely coming over from WoW, but considering OP comes from WoW I'm going to bring up that I think that might be the case here.

And for people who's gaming experience isn't tied to MMOs, but to things such as triple A games like GTA, voiced cutscenes are the norm with non-voiced cutscenes being unnecessary to access the story of the world around them. It is definitely a culture shock.

I'm one of the lucky ones in that my gaming experience started with non-voiced things such as RPG-maker games, the sims, etc. So having to read didn't phase me as much.

I strongly suspect that this tendency towards being impatient and not wanting to put a bit of effort in (which is what reading requires a modicum of) is not tied to any one generation but to a culture that has manifested as a result of the introduction of certain key technologies, smartphones being tops on that list. Thus you will find people from every generation going back to and including the boomers, who might find having to read text, a chore.

[MilkieTea]

I strongly suspect that this tendency towards being impatient and not wanting to put a bit of effort in (which is what reading requires a modicum of) is not tied to any one generation but to a culture that has manifested as a result of the introduction of certain key technologies, smartphones being tops on that list. Thus you will find people from every generation going back to and including the boomers, who might find having to read text, a chore.

100%. I'm not one of those who's all like "Hah, remember when people used to read books! GET RID OF SMARTPHONES!!!!", but I will say that our technological trend towards simplification has definitely led to generations across the board being less patient and less mentally available for things that take effort, like reading, writing, etc. On top of this, the younger generation typically is struggling with an increased rate in depression, anxiety disorders etc, which do also impact ones ability to sit still and read something for however long it necessitates.

[Eraden]

I'm an old person so I don't have any qualms about saying "get rid of smartphones". I honestly believe they have created more trouble than they are worth. People's social skills have begun to atrophy at an alarming rate (the pandemic sure didn't help this either). It may not seem like such a bad thing until you have two diplomats at a table, screaming at each other and getting ready to start a war. However, smartphones DO have some benefits for society so my question is as follows: Is there a way we can keep the benefits of smartphones while minimizing the problems they create? Anyone have any ideas as to how to fix this?

[TheMightyMollusk]

As someone nearing 40, people were rude, lazy, and impatient long before smartphones.