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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faust1105 View Post
    Some great insights! I do believe you hit a lot of the "between the lines" that SE was throwing into the story. Which is why I chose a song that was meant for Batman and Joker - very similar relationship comparison.
    Coincidently enough, Zenos in EW really reminded me of Joker from Lego Batman, which was an exaggeration of the version of the Joker that stands as Batman's opposite (not the only version of the Joker btw). The theme of 'I exist because you exist' is very strongly played with these villains.

    I always understood where the hate for Zenos was coming from, which only made it more saddening that people basically wanted for him to be something that he wasn't. Something else interesting to point out about Zenos, is that thus far he is the only villain in FFXIV who accomplished his end goal (post 7th calamity).
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    Last edited by Gemina; 02-01-2022 at 01:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    he is the only villain in FFXIV who accomplished his end goal (post 7th calamity).
    Since his goal was to go out with a bang, that was always going to happen in the end. If every villain became such a mustache-twirler, they'd all get what they were after.

    On that note, if Zenos comes back, he needs to come back with waxed mustache.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Coincidently enough, Zenos in EW really reminded me of Joker from Lego Batman, which was an exaggeration of the version of the Joker that stands as Batman's opposite (not the only version of the Joker btw). The theme of 'I exist because you exist' is very strongly played with these villains.

    I always understood where the hate for Zenos was coming from, which only made it more saddening that people basically wanted for him to be something that he wasn't. Something else interesting to point out about Zenos, is that thus far he is the only villain in FFXIV who accomplished his end goal (post 7th calamity).
    I thought it was great when he respected the fact that you didn't want to fight him, I can't think of another villain doing that lol.
    And he did it twice.

    He didn't just want to fight you he wanted you to want to fight him too.

    Edit: Obviously he wanted to egg you on in bad ways, but still.
    He wasn't just out simply to kill you.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 02-01-2022 at 01:47 PM.

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    That was a really nicely put together music video
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    All Hail Zenos our everlasting rival
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    Zenos was the worst villian ever. Sooooo boring and uninspiring, yet they dragged him out over 3 expacs! In the end he is/was utterly forgettable. Time to move on.
    He is not a villain. He mirrors a majority of the FF14 players.



    Cheers
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    Love Coheed. Perfect choice IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velovictus83 View Post
    Everyone has their perspective, it's all good. Like some people might actually like Krile or Asahi BUAHAHA!
    Personally I really enjoyed the interactions with Zenos :P
    Asahi is pretty much the only major character in the game that I've never heard anyone say they like, funny enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I thought it was great when he respected the fact that you didn't want to fight him, I can't think of another villain doing that lol.
    And he did it twice.

    He didn't just want to fight you he wanted you to want to fight him too.

    Edit: Obviously he wanted to egg you on in bad ways, but still.
    He wasn't just out simply to kill you.
    Agree. The fight and challenge is his main goal hence if he knew his opponent would probably not give their 200% effort to the fight then it would be useless for him haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrunchyMilk View Post
    Love Coheed. Perfect choice IMO.
    Great to see other Coheed fans out there! ^_^
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