Tribute to Zenos

[TaleraRistain]

Imo Zenos was a direct reflection of the WoL from the Garleans side and without the surrounding relationships to mold him into what the WoL is ( a super warrior who shows up to save the day, from their pov you're a super weapon that shows up and annihilates all of them and their friends just like Zenos ).
It's pretty obvious that's what the devs were going for when you look at him from Asahi's and the other Garlean soldiers pov in Stormblood and the whole body-swap sequence, he's like a perversion of us.
If you actually paid attention in the story you'll know that the WoL isn't exactly innocent when it comes to pretty blindly slaughtering people en masse or just based on the word of someone, we're pretty blood thirsty ourselves ( especially when it comes to beast races or anything we see as '' evil '' ) .

That's a good point to make. I know SE wants to keep RP options open and such, but I think people forget that our WoL isn't our original character to build from the ground up. The WoL in the story does have personality traits established by the writers and developers. And one of those personality traits is we can be pretty bloodthirsty sometimes when something is pitted against us. We leave a trail of bodies, too. They just disappear when we're in our dungeons or the overland and there aren't cutscenes with us surrounded by them.

[Denji]

had a friend who when they were going through stormblood and didn't know anything about zenos or aulus and called them "dollar general hojo and sephiroth" during the resonant cutscene.

privileged guy works for big evil country/government, has experimental procedure(s) done to him, tries to become god, kills the president(or in this case, emperor). if they hadn't added additional character development in EW i probably would've agreed with calling zenos that.

[TaleraRistain]

had a friend who when they were going through stormblood and didn't know anything about zenos or aulus and called them "dollar general hojo and sephiroth" during the resonant cutscene.

privileged guy works for big evil country/government, has experimental procedure(s) done to him, tries to become god, kills the president(or in this case, emperor). if they hadn't added additional character development in EW i probably would've agreed with calling zenos that.

Okay I am losing it at dollar general hojo

[Sathona]

Damn so many party poopers

[Faust1105]

That's a good point to make. I know SE wants to keep RP options open and such, but I think people forget that our WoL isn't our original character to build from the ground up. The WoL in the story does have personality traits established by the writers and developers. And one of those personality traits is we can be pretty bloodthirsty sometimes when something is pitted against us. We leave a trail of bodies, too. They just disappear when we're in our dungeons or the overland and there aren't cutscenes with us surrounded by them.

Haha, very good point XD It's a shame we dont have those cutscenes! =O

[TaleraRistain]

Haha, very good point XD It's a shame we dont have those cutscenes! =O

We couldn't keep our squeaky clean image if we did.

It's like my other favorite series, Assassin's Creed. The bodies don't disappear there (unless I toss them in hay or with certain skills). And I am acting for the right reasons. These are bad people who need to be stopped. But it's impossible to deny that I'm a murderhobo with the trail of bodies I leave behind.

[Kolsykol]

That's a good point to make. I know SE wants to keep RP options open and such, but I think people forget that our WoL isn't our original character to build from the ground up. The WoL in the story does have personality traits established by the writers and developers. And one of those personality traits is we can be pretty bloodthirsty sometimes when something is pitted against us. We leave a trail of bodies, too. They just disappear when we're in our dungeons or the overland and there aren't cutscenes with us surrounded by them.

Yeah, it's easy to see how scary we are from the pov of those who aren't on our side ( doesn't mean they're evil either ).
I mean, there's a dungeon where we're told to go and kill a mine full of slaves early on and we kinda just go and massacre beast tribe people just because we're told to.

The WoL is good at heart but I also think that it's pretty clear that we're also very quick to do some pretty heinous stuff.
The faction leaders aren't exactly guilt-free either but we still consider them good people and do what they say without questioning it a lot of the bad stuff they've done is stuff we've been the enablers of.
Our characters are basically adrenaline junkies who over time have become more responsible due to the people around us.
Zenos was just a lot more self-aware about it and unapologetic he didn't need a reason while it could be argued that a lot of the '' adventures '' we've had have just been excuses to kill people who don't necessarily deserve it and in some cases have done no wrong.

Edit: Kinda reminds me a little of in Mass Effect how people glorified certain Renegade options like punching an annoying reporter in the face in public and generally just abusing the Spectre status.
People are totally fine with it and still consider Sheperd a good person.
Unless he's full Renegade I guess but I think most would still consider him good in the grand scheme of things.

I thought it was cool that Zenos was a lot more honest about it there were just no excuses or dumb attempts at rationalizing it which we ultimately do all the time in games and often in real life even.
A lot of people condone violence irl just out of spite for even rather minor things.

[Haruka_R]

Yes. We kill people and slay gods left and right a la Kratos style. But we aren't Kratos, so it's not that serious. We aren't heinous either and we aren't actively looking to spill blood. We're just looking for a good fight, which Zenos provided 5 times.

[Vahlnir]

dollar general hojo

Ha! Success!

[TaleraRistain]

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Then Zenos gives that speech about agreeing with reasons to Jullus and we're just in the background like



Okay apparently I can't remember how to do pictures but that's supposed to be the side eye meme

https://imgur.com/gallery/uVJDXyM