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    Duelle Urelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phen View Post
    Lockouts aren't the answer there has to be something else. At least not the 24+ ones. Enough to make it unfeasible to spam but short enough to prevent "id like to play this game and do that dungeon I like but I actually cant for 36 more hours." Also that obviously applies to wins only or otherwise people will never take any chances or experiment.
    It's a matter of the method applied.

    WoW Dungeons
    - Dedicated server for instances
    - No time limit
    - guaranteed level-appropriate drops
    - Regular dungeons can be "reset" a certain number of times for spammage
    - Heroic dungeons reset every 24 hours
    - Numerous quest objectives tie into things that go on in the dungeons (pre-Cataclysm. I'll be the first to say the changes to dungeon-related quests in Cata was pretty damn terrible)
    - (Post-TBC) Secondary loot system that encouraged repeating dungeons (Badges in 2.0 and 3.0, Justice/Valor Points in 4.0)

    FFXIV Dungeons
    - Time limit
    - Non-guaranteed drops
    - Some GC objectives are loosely tied to the dungeons in the form of repeatable quests
    - "Speed Runs" implemented as an attempt to create difficulty
    - Apple

    XIV still has room for improvement.
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    Last edited by Duelle; 05-15-2012 at 07:45 AM.
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)