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    Corrderio's Avatar
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    Corrderio Arseid
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    I agree this game needs to kill and bury the "reward for luck, not effort" horsesh*t, though I'm still on the fence about lockouts. The biggest problem I see with them is if you have an odd number of LS members and can't make a 2nd party those who aren't in the main party are pretty much SoL for stuff to do that night.

    I guess in a sense a good middle ground would be if you win the fight you're "locked out" of the chest, but those that didn't get the kill will get their's at the end of the fight. Though how that would work in a raid is beyond me.
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    Last edited by Corrderio; 05-14-2012 at 02:36 PM.

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    Axel Smith
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    I agree this game needs to kill and bury the "reward for luck, not effort" horsesh*t, though I'm still on the fence about lockouts. The biggest problem I see with them is if you have an odd number of LS members and can't make a 2nd party those who aren't in the main party are pretty much SoL for stuff to do that night.
    Really the only content I'd expect to have any sort of lockout would be one involving an alliance, then I could see it being feasible tho I don't really care on that matter<,<; About lock-outs that is I could live with them or without them
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    Schneizel Alstreim
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    I agree this game needs to kill and bury the "reward for luck, not effort" horsesh*t, though I'm still on the fence about lockouts. The biggest problem I see with them is if you have an odd number of LS members and can't make a 2nd party those who aren't in the main party are pretty much SoL for stuff to do that night.
    There was an idea somewhere in the thread about limiting the number of items you get during a certain period, but still let you do the dungeon/content.

    Of course, best case-scenario would be content so hard that even by spamming it everyday you would only beat it a couple of times at best (or none at all!)
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    Corrderio Arseid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizlu View Post
    There was an idea somewhere in the thread about limiting the number of items you get during a certain period, but still let you do the dungeon/content.

    Of course, best case-scenario would be content so hard that even by spamming it everyday you would only beat it a couple of times at best (or none at all!)
    Just edited my post with something similar, though the problem is I'm not sure how that would work in DD/CC/AV since the chest mechanics are different.
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    Miru Miru
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    Gungnir
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nullie View Post
    I'm not forcing myself to do anything. I don't have to play this game. S.E. is the one handing this out for us to do on here. Ifrit, Moogle, Darkhold, CC/AV, Beastcamps, and Hamlet are all based on that system. A change would be good don't you think?
    yes a change to the garuda system would be good
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    Konstantine Porphyrogenitos
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    I just want them to get rid of speed runs and negate much of the randomness factor. I would rather they got rid of speed runs though, its not fun having to optimize a set-up and exclude others just for the sake of a speed run.
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    YEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
    FIX THE F***ING DROP RATE DUDES!!!!
    SOOOOOOOOOOOO MANY HOURS IN THE TWO DUNGEONS SR5C AND NO DL GEAR YET!!!
    LIKE NOT A SINGLE PEACE...


    It is really dimorallizing man..
    like doing it and doing it and nothing drops!!
    Kinda makes u wanna stop doing it and be like
    BITCH! u can keep your DL!! I hope you choke!

    Just saying after a few weeks of doing it it totally stops being fun.

    Im not saying take the rate from like 0.2 % to 50% i'm saying take it from 0.2% to like 10%

    Cause well 2.0% for every time u open a chest divided by 8 people in the party is really really really really baaaaaad............

    NOT FUN SE PEOPLE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hippo View Post
    I don't understand why some people knows the abyssmal drop rate and still CHOOSE to frustrate themselves by doing it.
    How is it hard to understand that everyone want the gear.
    If you want the gear you will need to frustrate over it.
    Not science.

    Quote Originally Posted by Isaaru View Post
    Because Darklight was totally made useless after this last patch.
    I laughed so hard at this reply i had to have my tongue removed from inside my throat.
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    Last edited by YuriSan; 05-14-2012 at 04:48 PM.

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    Chin Chilla
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Here we go with the blm qq'ing. Every whm in the game loves whm too I bet... Meatheads. Gear your BS dd classes in something other than AF and maybe someone will think to have you do an event on it.

    I agree with an above poster about dynamis, shit was a good system. I'm not saying it didn't get old and I didn't want to scratch my eyes out every time I entered it after doing it for 3+ years.... but you gotta help out the people that helped you right?

    I 100% agree also that this 8 person stuff is crap. However with the amount of content atm, idk if I'd want 18 person content either, at least 8 is a smaller number of people you've got to gear.

    Assuming 2.0 will fix 'everything' is lame too. Sure I think most of us are pretty excited for it, but I don't think there were even any announcements for 'endgame' content in 2.0 ... It's all just a fix to draw in more people with a relaunch of a 100% better game than the original launch which will hopefully bring in more players. Now I'm sure there will be some stuff in there, but I wouldn't bank on it having enough endgame content to keep you happy for more than a month.

    The changes made thus far have been huge, and I think it's returning players to the game so far that keeps some of the old content even being done. Running people through DH etc. I mean even the Primal's gear is replaceable (with some exceptions) with the next primal's gear... it's not like non-mage classes can gear swap so the whole 'situational' discussion can be thrown out.

    It all comes down to busy work at the moment, how do they keep people paying and playing while they try to fix their epic blunder... If you can't see it at this point? wake up. All we can do is do our raids and primal fights and hope that 2.0 really does 'fix everything'..... or we can just go back to qq'ing over not running stuff with 8 drgs.
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    Firon's Avatar
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    Firon Veleth
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Lets take monster hunter for example. Everything in that game is based on luck, but if i want to get that Rathalos Ruby with 1% drop my skill can increase my odds. I can cut the mobs tail off for a chance for a drop i can capture it for a chance of higher drop, or make it drop an shiny item for a chance for it to drop. All of those things require player skill to get better drops. No matter how good i am @ AV,CC it wont make the RNG any better.
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    Doho Fiasco
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 50
    i'm just gonna have to say, i'm pretty sure we're seeing faux content, not faux difficulty until 2.0 arrives lol. They need SOMETHING to tide us over, but they can't commit too much to the current game structure.
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    "Unbelievable wipes... indescribable failings. Whining, bitching, rage quitting - through an endless party find." - Doho, A Whole New Whorl

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