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  1. #1
    Player
    Adonan's Avatar
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    Character
    Klifur Yadai
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90

    What's your combat hotbar limit?

    I sometimes see people talk about their class having too many abilities, so I think the devs could benefit from a clear limit on the number of abilities people are willing to work with. I'm currently satisfied with three combat ability hotbars. My shortcuts usually involve SHIFT and CTRL (presumably everyone uses these shortcuts), and I use an MMO mouse. I might be willing to throw ALT and a fourth bar in there for the abilities I use the least often.
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    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    Character
    C'erise Vanesse
    World
    Maduin
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    every single class can fit in 3 hotbars, imho. i used to use shift+ctrl+alt, with 1-5 and a few letters that i forgot, but now that i have an mmo mouse, i use shift and ctrl with 1 through = and have even less issues. in fact, im working on taking my entire hotbar setup down and squishing sprint, tele, return and a mount onto my 3rd hotbar and going fully 3 hotbars (right now i have 3 battle hotbars and 1 shared hotbar that hosts that and a few other misc buttons)
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    NegativeS's Avatar
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    Character
    Negative Space
    World
    Seraph
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    DPS and Tanks:

    Top bar: Role abilities and LB (plus healing and rez if the job has it)
    Middle bar: Mitigation, buffs, and cooldowns (arms length goes here if playing tank)
    Bottom bar: All damage abilities

    Healers:

    Top bar: Role abilities, rez, and any "oh god everyone is going to die unless I use this" abilities
    Middle bar: Panic buttons, cooldowns, and buffs
    Bottom bar: Damage abilities and core rotation healing

    Following this I've been able to comfortably fit every job thusfar onto three bars.
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    My outline for a Chemist healer: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/513527-Healer-Concept-Draft-Chemist

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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Character
    Krotoan Argaviel
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    I use a controller and utilize 6. Several of them are partially empty just to emphasize and segregate their uses (AOE, Defense, Procs)

    I have never EVER reached even close to this limit.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Character
    Limecat Indignatio
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    For anything like standard combos or rotation stuff:
    1 2 3 4 and alt+1 2 3 4
    These are the only hotkeys that are quick and easy for me to hit in combat. Naked 5 is a very niche maybe, the alt+ version is right out the window. I'll still put some other stuff on the 90-= side that's not time-sensitive where I don't mind clicking for it. If a job really truly requires more than that, well... something(probably utility or side-combo WSs) is never going on the hotbars and will be treated as if it doesn't exist.
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    Character
    Dybbuk Zhennesch
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Honestly, to me, people talking about 'button bloat' or too many abilities.... To me that's... well the first thought that comes to mind is this:

    "Too many buttons? Are you... not willing to learn the entirety of your kit..? Is it so bad that you're expected to.... what.... learn and use your spells? Oh the horror of...! having to...... play your class/job.. Ig uess? Oh the shock and horror of it all!"

    But mind you, I'm a pretty jaded individual who actually likes having more than 5 buttons.
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  7. #7
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    Character
    Ryaz Darksbane
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    On PC, I have 3 hot bars I use with regular keys, shift and alt versions. I've never needed more than that. Most classes have several blank spaces.

    Then I have several side hotbars that contain non-combat things like sprint and mount, and a bunch without keybinds like job changing, crafting macros, etc.
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    Last edited by Ryaz; 01-24-2022 at 04:03 AM.

  8. #8
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    Character
    Hope Sunflame
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I use 1 through 5, Q through T + F, and Shift/Ctrl/Alt ` through 4. On Scholar and Astrologian I'm brimming full and pray that next expansion nothing more gets added. Haven't even bound something like potions/tinctures. This is my limit.
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    Mortal Fist

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    Character
    Mira Clearweaver
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    I used all the following, in separate rows:
    • ~, 1 to 6
    • Q, E, R, T
    • G (F is my ‘target closest’)
    • Z X C V B
    • F1 to F4
    • Alt + all above keys except T, G, V, B, and 6
    • Shift + D & A for Duty Actions.
    • Shift + W for quick mount/dismount (I dedicate 1 hotkey for this).

    There is 7 and 8, in addition to other remaining empty hotkeys because I use 4 hotbars but all these are the buttons I just manually click and/or does not utilize really often like tincture/pots, rez macro, certain ground targeted aoe macro, callout macro, etc. I switch around these part of hotkeys as needed.

    Please SE, don’t add anymore skills lol. Don’t make me learn some more weird finger gymnastics lol.
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  10. #10
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    Shibi's Avatar
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    Character
    Lala Felon
    World
    Zurvan
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    4 + a streamdeck

    Three hotbars I use actively :- on number row, + MMO mouse + tartarus
    And one bar for mouse clicking special purpose spells.

    Streamdeck does classes and mounts using the /commands associated with those.
    As I am reaper this second, Tartarus has my avatar actions, 1,2,3 are the slices, 6,7,8 the AOEs MMO-1,2,3 are Harpe plus the jumps, MMO 5 is Crest and so on.
    Limit break is a mouse press, like rescue is when I am healing.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

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