What's your combat hotbar limit?

[Zfz]

I don't have keybindings assigned to the class/job bars, just the first 4 hotbars. I could probably remove the "2" marker, because it's really just a habit from 2.0 when I mained PLD and attack order mattered. Now I just occasionally use the "1" marker to call attention to something.

But I really do think 2 full bars is about as much a job should be using for job-specific buttons. It gives enough room to add role actions and miscellaneous stuff (macros, pots, sprint etc) and still stay under 3 bars. Anything more and it starts to feel bloated for me.

[UkcsAlias]

i use 3 hotbars for each class:
Top row: abilities you spam a lot
Mid row (ctrl): abilities you regularly use, but usualy have a longer CD to avoid spamming (and abilities that become obsolete but are still required for level roulette).
Bottom row (still forgot to bind it to shift): abilities that you dont use very often or simply have very long CDs.

And i have an assisting hotbar for all classes, to which i have bound common actions (M4 for sprint and M5 for mounting, return, teleport). And some other hotbars for gimmicks of which im lazy (like certain emotes). And i have one for consumables. Still, in total i use like 8 hotbars (some are partialy off screen because there is no setting which allows for simply less buttons in the hotbar like for example just 8 buttons)

Alt is a modifier button i cant use, because thats my standard push to talk button. So for me 3 would be the limit, although a 4th one without any button shortcuts (like my 3rd bar is now) could still be doable.

The only type of abilities i could accept on a 4th hotbar are toggles like for example the emnity generation. These should rarely be used and therefor not need a button assigned to them (at the start of a dungeon manual clicking isnt too hard).

[Quintessa]

It's too much when I need to use 1 xbar + the extended xbar + the number pad on my keyboard for 1 job.

For some reason they wont set up combo actions to be 1 button like for PVP and when we control NPCs.

[Kolsykol]

This is outdated since I've swapped it around a little and also Bunshin + PF are now one button.
But I rly have a hard time taking the '' too many buttons '' argument seriously, most of these buttons are either fluff or utility too and not part of the single-target rotation.
And NIN is one of the busiest Jobs...
I really hope they don't ever listen to the '' auto-combos '' crowd because holy shit the combat would become so boring...



Edit: More updated hotbars.



The single-target rotation could almost fit on one bar it'd just be a little bit over and that's with mudras and all.

[DezereDawn]

2 and a half hotbars is about where i can get a comfy amount of hotkeys for as someone forced to play only using the keyboard due to wrist issues with extended mouse usage, the only job i'm struggling to do that with right now is AST thanks to the new bloat in it's kit

[vormela]

If the buttons are overwhelming for anyone, don't be afraid to slap them up there and click on the ones that look interesting occasionally. You will figure out where their utility is! Especially as a healer where you have to be a little more reactive. Don't feel bad about not having everything perfect right away. Keybinding for mmos is a skill that doesn't happen fast.

LB and rescue I put on my vertical side bar with the teleport and stuff I don't use as often. Your "oh kupo" button should always be accessible but not where you can accidentally use it!

[Avidria]

The problem for me is less hotbars than it is keybinds. Most of my stuff fits on 3 hotbars, with a bit on a 4th, but there's only so many ways I can mod keybinds and move my fingers before it starts getting awkward lol
I have about 28 keybinds and anything much beyond that is imo too much

[MaxCarnage]

I use 3 battle hotbars. 0-9 (plus . And /) on my numpad. Then the same with ctrl and alt. I only recently added the third hotbar about a 2 months ago and still, on occasion, mix up my skills.

My spouse is on PS5 and he only plays with 2 sets of cross hotbars. As he has to manually switch between which hotbar he is using, he finds it annoying if he has to scroll through rather than just switch back and forth, as there isn't a back cycle (as far as we know) for hotbars.

So in total, I have 36 spaces and he has 32. But I also have a hotbar on the side of my screen for teleport, return, journal, food, mount, and eternity ring that is not keybound.

[Elleia]

I like to keep things to 3 hotbars. I have small hands and my fingers aren't super flexible or coordinated.

I use 1-6, Q,E,Z,X,C,V along with alt + shift modifiers. Rarely used skills such as fairy placements I don't bind, I just click them when needed.

For the most part I can fit all my jobs on 3 hotbars. I'm finding AST to be the exception - I hate that there are separate buttons for drawing and playing cards and arcana. I've relegated some lesser used skills to a new hotbar with ctrl modifier bindings. I hate using ctrl through because it is not comfortable for me. Thinking I'll break out my mmo mouse and get it programmed and set up to make AST easier on me.

[Atmaweapon510]

Ideally around 26 unique Job actions. This gives me room to place Mount, Sprint, and four role actions within 32 slots with Cross Hotbar.

I don't differentiate between L2->R2 and R2->L2 or double tap L2/R2 because that just feels uncomfortable and prone to messing up in the heat of the moment.

Exceptions can always be made. I never want to accidentally completely screw myself or my party over so once in a blue moon things like Limit Break and Tank invulns can be squirreled away on one additional hotbar accessed by R1. This is almost always a deliberate clone of my base Cross hotbar with a few key buttons swapped out. The main exception is AST which basically has one entire side of the Cross hotbar dedicated to macros that play a card on specific party members and immediately swaps back to my main cross hotbar (the other side used to be the Minor arcana equivalent but that got scrapped with Endwalker.)