P1N Warrior solo kill

[Absimiliard]

Ah, good. The inevitable healers crying about a warrior soloing irrelevant content thread. It has arrived.

It's nothing new. Tanks have done similar - sometimes even crazier - things in previous expansions. They didn't get nerfed for it then, and WAR shouldn't be nerfed for it now. Its representation in the EX trials and savage modes is proof enough of that.

[MagiusNecros]

They will just nerf Dark Knight instead. And buff Holmgang again.

[Axious]

Hi there! Few thoughts on my mind.

I’ve been playing warrior since 2.0. Even in 2013 the same “issue” was brought to the DEVs attention.

“Warrior is op. Warrior is trash. Warrior can’t take a tank buster. Warrior can solo anything.”

Slowly over the patches the DEVs homogenized warrior towards paladin. Taking away the healing and adding more -dm.

That being said. Warrior is in a great spot. Mediocre damage, great sustain and -dm.

But.

The sustain for EW has already been nerfed compared to ShB nascent flash. (Based off damage dealt for a heal vs set cure potency 400)

I have no idea where I’m going with this post.

[Axious]

Thinking out loud.

Remove warriors -dm from everything. Reinstall the %hp and cure potency on defiance.

Inner chaos %300 cure potency for damage dealt.
Blood whetting remove the set cure potency and set to 10% damage dealt 5s heal.
Fell cleave and decimate heals for 100% damage dealt.
Bring back mercy stroke!

Funny enough? This use to be 2.0 warrior. Well close to it. Instead of bloodwhetting it was bloodbath.

[Towowo]

Ah, good. The inevitable healers crying about a warrior soloing irrelevant content thread. It has arrived.

It's nothing new. Tanks have done similar - sometimes even crazier - things in previous expansions. They didn't get nerfed for it then, and WAR shouldn't be nerfed for it now. Its representation in the EX trials and savage modes is proof enough of that.

I wouldn't say current content is "irrelevant", Content designed for groups should not be able to be solo'ed. It just shows how hilariously undertuned the game really is when something like this is even possible. Nor should an entire role be rendered irrelevant by design which is honestly seems like the game is going out of it's way to do.

[Anxin]

All fights relying on a script instead of reasonable AI doesn't help matters. Everything is predictable instead of critters actually trying to kill players. If a player has low health, the boss should ignore the tank and try to kill the player regardless of class. If a tank is soloing well, the critter should try a series of tank busters. Give critters AI that takes a little skill to beat instead of having us always dodge aoes in the same sequence fight after fight. No two queues should play the same way.

[Deceptus]

And yeah, SE is very much against nerfs unless it's ShB SMN, look how that turned out.

Sure they are. When it concerns DPS. From my Healer Double Standard post 2 years ago:

Yoshi-P on Red Mages (2 part GIF):



Meanwhile on Scholar

[Kabooa]

The sustain for EW has already been nerfed compared to ShB nascent flash. (Based off damage dealt for a heal vs set cure potency 400).

Oh hey. Outright false information.

There is only one scenario that the current Nascent window is nerfed in, and it's in one, single target window where you dump all your offensive cooldowns.

In literally every other scenario, current Nascent is stronger. Literally every other scenario.

No cooldown single target? Better.

Two-four target deadzone? Better.

AoE? Better.

Helping a party member off tank? Better.

They have decoupled Nascent's power from having to move burst cooldowns out of party buff windows to be used defensively.

Current Nascent is beyond stupid.

[Halfgeeek]

It´s both... tanks are way too strong and WAR is on top of them. Even savage could theoretically solo´d by a WAR or PLD due to the idiotic amount of self-healing. A good WAR pretty much never needs any heal from healers, not in dungeons, not in raids, not in EX or savage. Once you hit level 58 to cover Equilibrium and RI, you´re going to be unkillable and you outheal healers right at the moment, they would´ve to heal you finally.

Tanks need a flat nerf, WAR needs 2 nerfs and any aoe´s in any content should shred armor, so tanks can´t eat 5 vuln-stacks meanwhile raging about others who die instant, because they play a heal or DPS class.

This is a blatant hyperbole.

Try playing as WAR and not needing healer support in 2S and 3S. Not gonna happen.

[Rhais]

This is a blatant hyperbole.

Yep, this topic has been full of it. It deflates their argument a bit when it needs to be supported by blatant lies and extreme exaggeration.