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  1. #1
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    Atreides's Avatar
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anhra View Post
    In case People have forgotten, FFXIV is in the 4th Expansion already, it is about time we stop getting the Beginner treatment all the time and slowly start to be tested seriously about what we have learned in our long journey.
    Not going to happen with normal raids, they are basicly story mode. If we see a WAR pull that solo off in a current extreme or savage then I'll call it OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anhra View Post
    That is a rule that usually applies to PvP content balancing, in order to keep fair competition going.

    Under normal circumstances, any Boss in a MMORPG, especially the ones inside a instance, is technically unkillable by ANY MEANS in a solo Scenario, otherwise it isnt a Boss anymore, but just a slightly stronger hitting Monster that happens to have a few more mechanics and lots of HP.

    In case People have forgotten, FFXIV is in the 4th Expansion already, it is about time we stop getting the Beginner treatment all the time and slowly start to be tested seriously about what we have learned in our long journey.
    You know it is worse in wow, literally having paladin soloing heroic boss.

    Solo content is only possible in the lower difficulty content, you can't solo savage or ultimate and that's all what matter, idc of casual normal content being solo'ed, THIS-IS-NOT-THE-TRUE-ENDGAME-CONTENT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    I have been saying this for months. I saw it all the way back in Shadowbringers launch and it is even MORE prevalent today.

    DPS and enrage being the main focus to encounter design needs to be adjusted.

    1. Tanks need to TAKE MORE damage, auto attacks need to FREAKING hurt!
    2. Healers need to sweat trying to keep the party alive and barely any time to DPS. Maybe throw DOT out once it a while.
    3. DPS need to encounter MORE DPS specific mechanics while trying to keep uptime.

    Enrage should have a soft enrage and full enrage.

    Once the savage boss goes through it's full repertoire of attacks....it starts over....but with a soft enrage. 20% more damage output for 3 min or so until FULL enrage.

    Tanks will most likely re meld into full tenacity
    Healers will meld into piety
    DPS...well nothing changes...

    DPS race is no longer the focus of the game.

    I don't know how many times I take a shared tank buster from p2s....and literally solo it like it's nothing. Taking tethers to the face...and just laugh at them.

    I should feel scared to take a buster to the face. Instead I....yawn...
    i'm not sure if you any idea about what you're saying.

    first unless you have unlimited holmgang, you can only take 2 shared buster alone on p2s and you have to share the 3rd one since it is impossible to survive alone even with all your cooldown.

    2nd, you literally have no clue about healing in savage because unless you're clearing everything week 40 or with echo, healers have to make a proper healing rotation especially for some fight (hello p4s).
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    Last edited by Alzinor; 01-25-2022 at 11:44 PM.

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    Reginald Thorne
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    At this point they may as well remove the healer role. Rework the healers to be DPS and have it so everyone is responsible for their own HP. If they're gonna refuse to make fights do threatening damage AND refuse to give healers downtime gameplay beyond spamming one button, why exactly does the role exist? Just to carry players who make mistakes? Why would anyone want to play a role whose main gameplay has been gradually scrubbed out of the game by continuous dumbing down of the content, and outside of that is just a bad, boring DPS?

    People saying it doesn't matter because it's normal mode. So we have 4 jobs that only exist for 4-6 fights in the game and outside of that are just dead weight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PangTong View Post
    At this point they may as well remove the healer role. Rework the healers to be DPS and have it so everyone is responsible for their own HP. If they're gonna refuse to make fights do threatening damage AND refuse to give healers downtime gameplay beyond spamming one button, why exactly does the role exist? Just to carry players who make mistakes? Why would anyone want to play a role whose main gameplay has been gradually scrubbed out of the game by continuous dumbing down of the content, and outside of that is just a bad, boring DPS?

    People saying it doesn't matter because it's normal mode. So we have 4 jobs that only exist for 4-6 fights in the game and outside of that are just dead weight?
    healers can aoe heal.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alzinor View Post
    healers can aoe heal.
    Pssst. So can tanks and DPS. It's how the no healer EX primals were done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Pssst. So can tanks and DPS. It's how the no healer EX primals were done.
    yes once every 90s, again it is not a job issue but more like a content difficulty issue if 1 aoe heal every 90s is enough to keep the party alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Pssst. So can tanks and DPS. It's how the no healer EX primals were done.
    Correction, RPR and DNC can aoe heal. Doing a no healer run of the ex trials wouldn't have been possible without two reapers and four dancers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOperator3712 View Post
    Correction, RPR and DNC can aoe heal. Doing a no healer run of the ex trials wouldn't have been possible without two reapers and four dancers.
    smn can aoe HoT with phoenix, we should nerf smn wtf OP
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    Ixa X'phele
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    Now that the same feat was accomplished on PLD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtXBHA2MU5g will the crying about WAR stop?
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    Last edited by Somnolence; 01-26-2022 at 06:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    Now that the same feat was accomplished on PLD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtXBHA2MU5g will the crying about WAR stop?
    No, because if you actually read the thread, it wasn't crying about warrior specifically.

    I've hammered the point home time and again that it isn't just warrior that's broken. No one wants to listen, though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Last edited by Risvertasashi; 01-26-2022 at 07:12 PM.

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