P1N Warrior solo kill

[ssunny2008]

Yep, this topic has been full of it. It deflates their argument a bit when it needs to be supported by blatant lies and extreme exaggeration.

This is a blatant hyperbole.

Try playing as WAR and not needing healer support in 2S and 3S. Not gonna happen.

It´s possible and no, it´s not exaggeration. It has even been a thing in the latest SHB raidtier when BW wasn´t that hard buffed. None of the fights, not even E12s needed any healer support on a warrior. All what you had to do is to time your stuff correctly and its the same thing now. P2s is definately possible with a 25s BW and 60s Equi. P3s might be somehow harder, maybe not 100% possible, but it´s still laugable how easy and good it works to carry yourself even against tankbusters.
My main-choice as tank has been WAR from begin, so yeah... and my heal is even always like "Could you play WAR?", because she don´t have to take care for me unless i say a word and can greed for more damage then, meanwhile i´m completely bored since the broken tankchanges in SHB happened.

[Mortex]

It´s both... tanks are way too strong and WAR is on top of them. Even savage could theoretically solo´d by a WAR or PLD due to the idiotic amount of self-healing. A good WAR pretty much never needs any heal from healers, not in dungeons, not in raids, not in EX or savage. Once you hit level 58 to cover Equilibrium and RI, you´re going to be unkillable and you outheal healers right at the moment, they would´ve to heal you finally.

Tanks need a flat nerf, WAR needs 2 nerfs and any aoe´s in any content should shred armor, so tanks can´t eat 5 vuln-stacks meanwhile raging about others who die instant, because they play a heal or DPS class.

Just because the content is piss easy you want too nerf tanks ? And sry if you die too ground aoes in content that is telegrapht then you deserve it. If it’s not early snapshot weight of the land then you are 100 % at fault and not the tank. Also a tank with 5 vuln up that main tanks also gets oneshot by tankbuster if he’s bad and doesn’t use any cd. Had that happen in the 81 dungeon we’re the tank had 5 stacks and got one shot by the tankbuster.

Final Fantasy 14 has the problem that the content is designed for (I’m sorry for saying that in this way here) monkeys and I say that’s even a insult too the monkeys because I actually needs max 3 button too clear the normal content in this game.

[ssunny2008]

Just because the content is piss easy you want too nerf tanks ? And sry if you die too ground aoes in content that is telegrapht then you deserve it. If it’s not early snapshot weight of the land then you are 100 % at fault and not the tank. Also a tank with 5 vuln up that main tanks also gets oneshot by tankbuster if he’s bad and doesn’t use any cd. Had that happen in the 81 dungeon we’re the tank had 5 stacks and got one shot by the tankbuster.

Final Fantasy 14 has the problem that the content is designed for (I’m sorry for saying that in this way here) monkeys and I say that’s even a insult too the monkeys because I actually needs max 3 button too clear the normal content in this game.

Never said "it´s the tanks fault" or something. It´s just laughable how strong tanks are even without using their defs. If SE would buff the content on a degree, where tanks would actually get hurt, you could get ride of any defs or mitigation on other classes, because they would die to any shit immediately. And no... just some tankbusters here and there is laughable and not enough.
The content is too low yes, but tanks are also way too strong when they´re theoretically able to solo everything in this game, if there wouldn´t be a DPS check or instadeath mechanics caused by missing partymembers. Being tanky is one thing, but being immortal another.

Don´t know if you mean it that way, but do you actually try to defend tanks dieing to 5 vuln stacks?! I mean... that it´s actually possible to have such an amount without using defs is a joke. Even with defs it shouldn´t go higher than 3. And while eating the 3rd stack you shouldn´t survive without burning everything cd into it.

[Kazimere]

Just because the content is piss easy you want too nerf tanks ? And sry if you die too ground aoes in content that is telegrapht then you deserve it. If it’s not early snapshot weight of the land then you are 100 % at fault and not the tank. Also a tank with 5 vuln up that main tanks also gets oneshot by tankbuster if he’s bad and doesn’t use any cd. Had that happen in the 81 dungeon we’re the tank had 5 stacks and got one shot by the tankbuster.

Final Fantasy 14 has the problem that the content is designed for (I’m sorry for saying that in this way here) monkeys and I say that’s even a insult too the monkeys because I actually needs max 3 button too clear the normal content in this game.

Ssunny wants everything nerfed. All he ever talks about is nerf this and nerf that. Just ignore him.

[MagiusNecros]

I remember when 2 vulnerability stacks meant you needed to Tank Swap. Oh how times have changed.

[Mortex]

Never said "it´s the tanks fault" or something. It´s just laughable how strong tanks are even without using their defs. If SE would buff the content on a degree, where tanks would actually get hurt, you could get ride of any defs or mitigation on other classes, because they would die to any shit immediately. And no... just some tankbusters here and there is laughable and not enough.
The content is too low yes, but tanks are also way too strong when they´re theoretically able to solo everything in this game, if there wouldn´t be a DPS check or instadeath mechanics caused by missing partymembers. Being tanky is one thing, but being immortal another.

Don´t know if you mean it that way, but do you actually try to defend tanks dieing to 5 vuln stacks?! I mean... that it´s actually possible to have such an amount without using defs is a joke. Even with defs it shouldn´t go higher than 3. And while eating the 3rd stack you shouldn´t survive without burning everything cd into it.

I know what you mean and ofc you didn’t say tank fault. The problem is just that 90% content in ff 14 was designed for baby’s. Every dungeon and normal trial and normal raid is designed so every player can drool on the keyboard and still clear the fights. Even if the tanks didn’t have self sustain it doesn’t Change the fact that healer kits are super powerful and bloated with ogcd tools, people shit rightfully on white mage how bad it is in comparison but even whm has decent ogcd tools. And even then if they prune the ogcd heals, what makes the difference from spamming glare/malefic/broil/dosis to spamming aoe gcd heals, it’s again one button but the difference between healer, tanks and dps is that tanks and dps do have rotations they need too do.

I was a healer player in ShB and swapped too meele for endwalker and it actually made me try too push myself too get good logs and optimize in my static, playing healer did the opposite for me, it is fun early and then becomes so boring because you map out the entire fight and then it’s done.

[Absimiliard]

Ah, good. The inevitable healers crying about a warrior soloing irrelevant content thread. It has arrived.

It's nothing new. Tanks have done similar - sometimes even crazier - things in previous expansions. They didn't get nerfed for it then, and WAR shouldn't be nerfed for it now. Its representation in the EX trials and savage modes is proof enough of that.

[Towowo]

Ah, good. The inevitable healers crying about a warrior soloing irrelevant content thread. It has arrived.

It's nothing new. Tanks have done similar - sometimes even crazier - things in previous expansions. They didn't get nerfed for it then, and WAR shouldn't be nerfed for it now. Its representation in the EX trials and savage modes is proof enough of that.

I wouldn't say current content is "irrelevant", Content designed for groups should not be able to be solo'ed. It just shows how hilariously undertuned the game really is when something like this is even possible. Nor should an entire role be rendered irrelevant by design which is honestly seems like the game is going out of it's way to do.

[MagiusNecros]

They will just nerf Dark Knight instead. And buff Holmgang again.

[Axious]

Hi there! Few thoughts on my mind.

I’ve been playing warrior since 2.0. Even in 2013 the same “issue” was brought to the DEVs attention.

“Warrior is op. Warrior is trash. Warrior can’t take a tank buster. Warrior can solo anything.”

Slowly over the patches the DEVs homogenized warrior towards paladin. Taking away the healing and adding more -dm.

That being said. Warrior is in a great spot. Mediocre damage, great sustain and -dm.

But.

The sustain for EW has already been nerfed compared to ShB nascent flash. (Based off damage dealt for a heal vs set cure potency 400)

I have no idea where I’m going with this post.