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  1. #81
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    Zaniel's Avatar
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    Zaniel Taephen
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    Sophia
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bready View Post
    We literally do not have the gil required to teleport
    What? How is this possible, money rains from the sky in this game. At L90 you should have millions lying around even without doing crafting or other money making, just from duties and roulettes.
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  2. #82
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    It's basically crafter welfare. Most MMO try some form of it, to force people to be customers to the crafters. It's one of the things I really dislike about FFXIV is it makes crafters mega-rich compared to everyone else.
    It does the exact opposite. It makes no one "rich" compared to anyone, except bots.

    There isn't even that much point in being a crafter tbh. If you want the latest battle set or a stack of food, just run maps for an hour or two, or run a Hunt train or two and sell the materia + tome mats, and you can literally buy a full 580 set. Or just keep a single crafter at 80 and do Custom deliveries and turn the scrips into materia to sell. Or keep a single DoL and gather 1 map a day and sell it and it'll add up for you.

    Why go to the effort of leveling 8 classes to 90, obtaining all the master books, researching your macro's and pentamelding when all it gives you access to is cheap rubbish anyone can farm easily?

    Because of players like yourself who despised the fact that people could put in time and effort and be rewarded, FF14 killed crafters. You got what you wanted and predictably, you're still not happy. That's what happens when you spoil people.
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  3. #83
    Player Conundrum's Avatar
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    Marius De'romanas
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    Malboro
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    Dancer Lv 90
    TO all the clowns saying crafters don't make a huge profit.

    Tell that to all the crafters who were bragging about making bank before the new raid tier.

    Tell that to the real life friend I have with his nearly capped gil from crafting.

    So you're either liars (what I think), or YOU'RE THE ONES BAD AT MAKING GIL WITH CRAFTING.
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  4. #84
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    24spencer's Avatar
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    Djar Trovasch
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    TO all the clowns saying crafters don't make a huge profit.

    Tell that to all the crafters who were bragging about making bank before the new raid tier.

    Tell that to the real life friend I have with his nearly capped gil from crafting.

    So you're either liars (what I think), or YOU'RE THE ONES BAD AT MAKING GIL WITH CRAFTING.
    People made bank before the raid gear by scrip crafting and selling materia, the people who didn't make money are the ones who spent 15m pentamelding the day before the patch only to find out that oops, there literally aren't enough raiders to buy all this incredibly easy to make gear
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  5. #85
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    Eraden's Avatar
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    Mao Xifeng
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    Adamantoise
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Well, I can't really speak for the crafters as I am not one, but as for gathering, with a little bit of care and attention, I am on track to having enough to afford a medium house when 6.1 comes along. Gathering has been good to me. The important thing is to carefully watch the market boards for trends to see which gathered materials hold more value. You have to play smart. Just throwing any old thing up on the market board is not going to give you a guaranteed payout.
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  6. #86
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    TO all the clowns saying crafters don't make a huge profit.

    Tell that to all the crafters who were bragging about making bank before the new raid tier.

    Tell that to the real life friend I have with his nearly capped gil from crafting.

    So you're either liars (what I think), or YOU'RE THE ONES BAD AT MAKING GIL WITH CRAFTING.
    Nah man. Even what you’re saying here is not entirely true. Because we have too many crafters & too many sellers but not quite enough buyers. It’s a simple logic.

    Knowing just from your real life friend(s) experience doesn’t suddenly make the whole entire dedicated crafter population filthy rich even from the patch day sales.
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  7. #87
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    C'saka Kahjai
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    Tell that to the real life friend I have with his nearly capped gil from crafting.

    So you're either liars (what I think), or YOU'RE THE ONES BAD AT MAKING GIL WITH CRAFTING.
    TIPPING IS WELFARE FOR RICH PEOPLE!

    MY REAL LIFE FRIEND IS A DAY TRADER WHO WAITED TABLES 70 HOURS A WEEK FOR TWENTY YEARS AND HE HAS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS!

    YOU'RE EITHER LYING ABOUT HOW MUCH WAITSTAFF MAKE (WHAT I THINK) OR YOU'RE THE ONE WHO IS BAD AT MAKING MONEY!
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  8. #88
    Player Conundrum's Avatar
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    Marius De'romanas
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    Malboro
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kakure View Post
    TIPPING IS WELFARE FOR RICH PEOPLE!

    MY REAL LIFE FRIEND IS A DAY TRADER WHO WAITED TABLES 70 HOURS A WEEK FOR TWENTY YEARS AND HE HAS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS!

    YOU'RE EITHER LYING ABOUT HOW MUCH WAITSTAFF MAKE (WHAT I THINK) OR YOU'RE THE ONE WHO IS BAD AT MAKING MONEY!
    Triggered much?
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  9. #89
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    Galen Amaranthe
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Since anyone can do any craft on one character... just level crafting if you need the services that badly. Personally, I level some crafting just as a break and change of pace. If some people are making bank off it- good on them. No one is stopping anyone from just crafting yourself...
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  10. #90
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    elioaiko's Avatar
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    Junhee Hatsuharu
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 94
    It's really not that hard to level crafters. Ishgard Restoration has literally made it super easy to do so.

    Pentamelding is annoying but considering that omnicrafters have to slave over the market board, the least you could do is pony up the materia and cash to pay them.
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