An educated rant: Why pentamelding is %@$&*!-backwards

[Sqwall]

Exactly.I level all my crafts so I can meld and repair my own gear. (Can't pentameld any of my DPS gear though.)
Gil comes from gathering. The only gear I've made is a set of gathering gear for my botanist retainer

I have a full time career, married 10 years, 2 kids, 2 dogs, other hobbies and STILL amazed by people that can't earn gil in this game.

The QUICK gil comes from gathered mats. Ore, logs, skins, maps, potent spice, leaves (don't know the name), water, grass/hempen. This stuff sells usually PRETTY quick, generally within minutes if you price it correctly. Sometimes stacks of 99 sell outright, but can be better to sell in stacks of 49 for a lower price point and offer options to those with maybe less gil or don't want to spend a full 99 stack worth. This is gatherers bread and butter way of making gil. If you love spending time doing the same thing over and over, with youtube running or spotify on. This is for you.

The STEADY gil comes from crafted mats. Lumber, leather, nuggets, ingots, cloth, oil (culinarian), alkahest's. I rarely deal with undercutting when I sell crafted mats. They sell so fast and steady it's pointless to busy myself with the undercutting game. The sales on these are pretty much within 30min to an hour. This can be an if/then issue at times. If a patch is coming out, then make a crap load of this to rake it in as no price is wrong. If there isn't a patch, craft in moderation and be ready to adjust your prices before you log. This works best in a single item sell. I rarely put stacks on this unless it's something that needs 2-3 per craft. Crondite is a good example of selling in 12's, 24's, 36's etc. as some recipes need 2 or 3 ingots. The crafted items that need MULTIPLE items each are great cash cows. I generally do this type of crafting once a week and make around 2-3 million on average.

The WHALE gil comes from rare items. Current ilevel gear, EX plateing/crystals/gems, chocobo barding, Glamour items, trophy's, housing items, rare dye's. While lucrative!..............BUT. Just look at the sales history and see how many are sold within the last 24 hours. If it's literally 1 per week, 1 per month.....be prepared to WAIT to be lucky that you are the lowest price on the market board. This also goes for current ilevel gear, be prepared to play the undercutting game....for a while....and just getting deflated results. Sometimes those massive prices bring slow results.

I have been in sales and analytics for 15 years. Stick to your bread and butter items! Gross doesn't mean crap, when volume will win 99 times out of 100. I can make 2 million gil in a hour selling mats vs. selling 1(one) 580 ilevel ring for 100-200k in 24 hours.

This is how I became wealthy with gil, and able to drop 13-14 million on pentamelding. You have to put in the work!

[Catwho]

The game also throws gil at you just for playing the game without the intention of making gil. Do a dungeon? You'll walk out a few thousand gil richer, as much as 20K for expert dungeons. Even more for roulettes. Challenge log has the potential to throw almost 100K gil at you once a week. WT is like a guaranteed 30-40K if you sell the map you get from it.

If all you do is log in and dance around the Limsa aetheryte, then yeah, you're gonna be broke all the time.

[Kes13a]

You have to put in the work!

you DO realize you said the one thing someone like the OP doesnt want to hear. "work"

effort is wasted time! they could be dpsing their way to imaginary virtual in game greatness!!!!!!

[Arrhin]

I have a full time career, married 10 years, 2 kids, 2 dogs, other hobbies and STILL amazed by people that can't earn gil in this game.

The QUICK gil comes from gathered mats. Ore, logs, skins, maps, potent spice, leaves (don't know the name), water, grass/hempen. This stuff sells usually PRETTY quick, generally within minutes if you price it correctly. Sometimes stacks of 99 sell outright, but can be better to sell in stacks of 49 for a lower price point and offer options to those with maybe less gil or don't want to spend a full 99 stack worth. This is gatherers bread and butter way of making gil. If you love spending time doing the same thing over and over, with youtube running or spotify on. This is for you.

The STEADY gil comes from crafted mats. Lumber, leather, nuggets, ingots, cloth, oil (culinarian), alkahest's. I rarely deal with undercutting when I sell crafted mats. They sell so fast and steady it's pointless to busy myself with the undercutting game. The sales on these are pretty much within 30min to an hour. This can be an if/then issue at times. If a patch is coming out, then make a crap load of this to rake it in as no price is wrong. If there isn't a patch, craft in moderation and be ready to adjust your prices before you log. This works best in a single item sell. I rarely put stacks on this unless it's something that needs 2-3 per craft. Crondite is a good example of selling in 12's, 24's, 36's etc. as some recipes need 2 or 3 ingots. The crafted items that need MULTIPLE items each are great cash cows. I generally do this type of crafting once a week and make around 2-3 million on average.

The WHALE gil comes from rare items. Current ilevel gear, EX plateing/crystals/gems, chocobo barding, Glamour items, trophy's, housing items, rare dye's. While lucrative!..............BUT. Just look at the sales history and see how many are sold within the last 24 hours. If it's literally 1 per week, 1 per month.....be prepared to WAIT to be lucky that you are the lowest price on the market board. This also goes for current ilevel gear, be prepared to play the undercutting game....for a while....and just getting deflated results. Sometimes those massive prices bring slow results.

I have been in sales and analytics for 15 years. Stick to your bread and butter items! Gross doesn't mean crap, when volume will win 99 times out of 100. I can make 2 million gil in a hour selling mats vs. selling 1(one) 580 ilevel ring for 100-200k in 24 hours.

This is how I became wealthy with gil, and able to drop 13-14 million on pentamelding. You have to put in the work!

Agree with most, that last line though oooof. I have never spent more than a few hundred K on Penta's at a time if I'm short on something, zero on my DoH/L. Materia is as easy as Gil to get

[Jojoya]

Agree with most, that last line though oooof. I have never spent more than a few hundred K on Penta's at a time if I'm short on something, zero on my DoH/L. Materia is as easy as Gil to get

Someone who's got a lot of their time taken up by outside pursuits probably isn't generating much materia through active game play. On the other hand, they can throw up items on the MB that will yield gil while they're offline. When they've already got the gil, they can spend it to buy their materia and save the time they have available to play for other content.

Both methods work. It all depends on how much time you have to play and where your main interests lie.

[AtlasS]

Crafting is boring every game. I only leveled one for the beast tribe mounts.

[Colten822]

Knowing how to play the violin is actually a very important skill to know for driving, there's a lot of cross over knowledge there. In my country we make sure people can play the violin, drums, and at least two wind instruments before allowing them to apply for a license, but the catch is you also need to know guitars to get any car insurance that's worth something, most places any guitar is fine but some places INSIST that it's an acoustic guitar.

In the end, it's all worth it, it makes driving a much more rewarding experience, but hey, you can always ride a bike around for free!

[Diddums]

If you enjoy combat so much, why don't you transfer that passion into a combat sport? I think this is a very reasonable proposal.

I suplex my dogs onto the bed all the time, then I give them belly rubs with the power of 10,000 suns.

[SirKampalot]

i dont like levelling my crafters and i dont have a lot of gil to pentameld or buy gears. but i fully disagree with your post.

Pentamelding is not being gatekeeped by anything, nor is it a timesink. if you dont wanna level any DoL/Doh to earn gil then dont blame the game.

[Packetdancer]

wait until you hit 3 and have to end instances early due to eyestrain, because the devs learned nothing from the feedback about E6.

"Hrm. So far, this raid's color scheme is... orange, and red, and yellow, and more red, and yellow again, and a slightly different orange... do you think we're missing anything?"

"Oh! Look, we used the same shade of yellow twice!"

"OH! I can't believe I didn't catch that. Good eye; we'll need to shift that from #FFFF00 to... hm. #FAFA00?"

"That sounds about right."

"Whew. That was a close one. Can you imagine if we released it in that state?"

"Right? Who'd be able to tell those two yellows apart?"

"Yeah, this is much better. The players will be so happy!"

[ cue quiet screaming from somewhere off-screen ]