An educated rant: Why pentamelding is %@$&*!-backwards

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

There's a thing called prepping...
Why do people think those 'raiders' who's also an omnicrafter grinded for their DoH/L gears, white scripts, and purple scripts weeks before the actual tier drops..? Why do people think they hitch a ride into those hunt trains whenever they could? Apologies, but I fail to see how it is "gatekept by the gil market."

Even much less when I re-think it again, you're only mentioning pentamelding which only requires one of the DoH to be sufficiently leveled to pentameld. Even if people level their DoH/L solely by daily GC turn ins, they'll still have plenty of time to prep.

[Raven2014]

Educated rant? Eh ... pretty sure you miss the prefix "un-" somewhere in the tittle pal.

Materia is literally falling some the sky like candy these days. I swear, for some people even if you serve them the meal on a silver plate, they'll still gonna complain no one spoonfeed them.

[Rolder50]

The REAL no lifers raid and also have all crafters to max! Heck knows they've made it easy enough to cap crafters.

[SamSmoot]

The REAL no lifers raid and also have all crafters to max! Heck knows they've made it easy enough to cap crafters.

Exactly.I level all my crafts so I can meld and repair my own gear. (Can't pentameld any of my DPS gear though.)
Gil comes from gathering. The only gear I've made is a set of gathering gear for my botanist retainer

[Sqwall]

Exactly.I level all my crafts so I can meld and repair my own gear. (Can't pentameld any of my DPS gear though.)
Gil comes from gathering. The only gear I've made is a set of gathering gear for my botanist retainer

I have a full time career, married 10 years, 2 kids, 2 dogs, other hobbies and STILL amazed by people that can't earn gil in this game.

The QUICK gil comes from gathered mats. Ore, logs, skins, maps, potent spice, leaves (don't know the name), water, grass/hempen. This stuff sells usually PRETTY quick, generally within minutes if you price it correctly. Sometimes stacks of 99 sell outright, but can be better to sell in stacks of 49 for a lower price point and offer options to those with maybe less gil or don't want to spend a full 99 stack worth. This is gatherers bread and butter way of making gil. If you love spending time doing the same thing over and over, with youtube running or spotify on. This is for you.

The STEADY gil comes from crafted mats. Lumber, leather, nuggets, ingots, cloth, oil (culinarian), alkahest's. I rarely deal with undercutting when I sell crafted mats. They sell so fast and steady it's pointless to busy myself with the undercutting game. The sales on these are pretty much within 30min to an hour. This can be an if/then issue at times. If a patch is coming out, then make a crap load of this to rake it in as no price is wrong. If there isn't a patch, craft in moderation and be ready to adjust your prices before you log. This works best in a single item sell. I rarely put stacks on this unless it's something that needs 2-3 per craft. Crondite is a good example of selling in 12's, 24's, 36's etc. as some recipes need 2 or 3 ingots. The crafted items that need MULTIPLE items each are great cash cows. I generally do this type of crafting once a week and make around 2-3 million on average.

The WHALE gil comes from rare items. Current ilevel gear, EX plateing/crystals/gems, chocobo barding, Glamour items, trophy's, housing items, rare dye's. While lucrative!..............BUT. Just look at the sales history and see how many are sold within the last 24 hours. If it's literally 1 per week, 1 per month.....be prepared to WAIT to be lucky that you are the lowest price on the market board. This also goes for current ilevel gear, be prepared to play the undercutting game....for a while....and just getting deflated results. Sometimes those massive prices bring slow results.

I have been in sales and analytics for 15 years. Stick to your bread and butter items! Gross doesn't mean crap, when volume will win 99 times out of 100. I can make 2 million gil in a hour selling mats vs. selling 1(one) 580 ilevel ring for 100-200k in 24 hours.

This is how I became wealthy with gil, and able to drop 13-14 million on pentamelding. You have to put in the work!

[Kes13a]

You have to put in the work!

you DO realize you said the one thing someone like the OP doesnt want to hear. "work"

effort is wasted time! they could be dpsing their way to imaginary virtual in game greatness!!!!!!

[Arrhin]

I have a full time career, married 10 years, 2 kids, 2 dogs, other hobbies and STILL amazed by people that can't earn gil in this game.

The QUICK gil comes from gathered mats. Ore, logs, skins, maps, potent spice, leaves (don't know the name), water, grass/hempen. This stuff sells usually PRETTY quick, generally within minutes if you price it correctly. Sometimes stacks of 99 sell outright, but can be better to sell in stacks of 49 for a lower price point and offer options to those with maybe less gil or don't want to spend a full 99 stack worth. This is gatherers bread and butter way of making gil. If you love spending time doing the same thing over and over, with youtube running or spotify on. This is for you.

The STEADY gil comes from crafted mats. Lumber, leather, nuggets, ingots, cloth, oil (culinarian), alkahest's. I rarely deal with undercutting when I sell crafted mats. They sell so fast and steady it's pointless to busy myself with the undercutting game. The sales on these are pretty much within 30min to an hour. This can be an if/then issue at times. If a patch is coming out, then make a crap load of this to rake it in as no price is wrong. If there isn't a patch, craft in moderation and be ready to adjust your prices before you log. This works best in a single item sell. I rarely put stacks on this unless it's something that needs 2-3 per craft. Crondite is a good example of selling in 12's, 24's, 36's etc. as some recipes need 2 or 3 ingots. The crafted items that need MULTIPLE items each are great cash cows. I generally do this type of crafting once a week and make around 2-3 million on average.

The WHALE gil comes from rare items. Current ilevel gear, EX plateing/crystals/gems, chocobo barding, Glamour items, trophy's, housing items, rare dye's. While lucrative!..............BUT. Just look at the sales history and see how many are sold within the last 24 hours. If it's literally 1 per week, 1 per month.....be prepared to WAIT to be lucky that you are the lowest price on the market board. This also goes for current ilevel gear, be prepared to play the undercutting game....for a while....and just getting deflated results. Sometimes those massive prices bring slow results.

I have been in sales and analytics for 15 years. Stick to your bread and butter items! Gross doesn't mean crap, when volume will win 99 times out of 100. I can make 2 million gil in a hour selling mats vs. selling 1(one) 580 ilevel ring for 100-200k in 24 hours.

This is how I became wealthy with gil, and able to drop 13-14 million on pentamelding. You have to put in the work!

Agree with most, that last line though oooof. I have never spent more than a few hundred K on Penta's at a time if I'm short on something, zero on my DoH/L. Materia is as easy as Gil to get

[Jojoya]

Agree with most, that last line though oooof. I have never spent more than a few hundred K on Penta's at a time if I'm short on something, zero on my DoH/L. Materia is as easy as Gil to get

Someone who's got a lot of their time taken up by outside pursuits probably isn't generating much materia through active game play. On the other hand, they can throw up items on the MB that will yield gil while they're offline. When they've already got the gil, they can spend it to buy their materia and save the time they have available to play for other content.

Both methods work. It all depends on how much time you have to play and where your main interests lie.

[Packetdancer]

This is how I became wealthy with gil, and able to drop 13-14 million on pentamelding. You have to put in the work!

While I admit I went through about 9 million gil pentamelding my DoH/DoL Aesthete gear at the final bit of ShB after I ran through several hundred of each type of materia I had stockpiled (I did not have good overmelding luck that crafter tier...), and I managed to get through with only like 900k on pentamelding my gear this time -- mostly for one slot, because apparently all my bad luck was concentrated on that one particular ring -- I had someone mention in a despairing tone on Discord earlier tonight that they'd spent more than thirty million gil on materia for pentamelding their DoH/DoL gear in the past week, and I just about swallowed my own tongue.

[Sqwall]

While I admit I went through about 9 million gil pentamelding my DoH/DoL Aesthete gear at the final bit of ShB after I ran through several hundred of each type of materia I had stockpiled (I did not have good overmelding luck that crafter tier...), and I managed to get through with only like 900k on pentamelding my gear this time -- mostly for one slot, because apparently all my bad luck was concentrated on that one particular ring -- I had someone mention in a despairing tone on Discord earlier tonight that they'd spent more than thirty million gil on materia for pentamelding their DoH/DoL gear in the past week, and I just about swallowed my own tongue.

30 million I would have punched a hole in the wall with my voice. That's incredibly unlucky! I thought 14mil was...."exceptable"...as I have got it all back already...but man! 30mil is disgusting. Some are lucky...some aren't I suppose.