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  1. #1
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    MitsukiLily's Avatar
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    Hoyobsirk Ooze
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 90

    An educated rant: Why pentamelding is %@$&*!-backwards

    So the new tier comes out and you want to do damage to the bosses. Right? Wrong. The ability to pentameld is locked behind unnecessary side quests and gatekept by the gil markets. Seriously. Has anyone ever questioned why you need CRAFTERS and GATHERERS so you can overmeld on COMBAT CLASSES? It's just a timesink that punishes people who want to do real content instead of blowing away their subscription time on garbage. Imagine you have your driver's license and you want to drive a car, but before you could even step into a car you had to learn how to learn how to play the violin. FFXIV is a world where only violinists can drive cars, and the actual racers are left taking the bus. And when you dare to point that out, all the violinists say "well it's not fair! Go learn to play some Vivaldi!!!". So you go "ah well, might as well look at a youtube tutorial on how to play this thing" and you realize that the violin is more expensive than your rent. It's prohibitively expensive to even get things melded. Seriously, it makes no sense to brickwall the people who want to actually play the game instead of jumping through pointless hoops. Solutions are to

    1) Divorce pentamelding from non-combat classes, and give it to people who reach the level cap of an expansion OR
    2) Make materia drop from current extreme trials and normal raids. When you clear a savage fight of the tier, then you're 100% guaranteed to have the overmeld go through.
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    Kitty Floss
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I completely agree, Mitsuki. This is just another example of SE kowtowing to the lowest common denominator. As far as I'm concerned, crafters and gatherers shouldn't even be in the game. These are jobs made for people who are so inept at the combat portion of the game, that they dedicate themselves to the trades in game whilst not being able to change a light bulb in real life. Pentamelds are only locked behind crafters so that these people can have a power trip about how all the raiders (the ones actually playing the game) need them to acquire in game strength. I refuse to prostrate myself beneath the crafters' boots, and thus haven't been able to make it past P4S enrage for 3 weeks. If I want to be able to kill bosses in this game I only have 2 choices: waste months of my life leveling crafters, or submit myself to the humiliation of begging for charity melds in Limsa from the very people oppressing me.
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    Last edited by boyhunter; 01-21-2022 at 03:47 PM.

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    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Angrypillow Duvall
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    Marilith
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by boyhunter View Post
    I completely agree, Mitsuki. This is just another example of SE kowtowing to the lowest common denominator. As far as I'm concerned, crafters and gatherers shouldn't even be in the game. These are jobs made for people who are so inept at the combat portion of the game, that they dedicate themselves to the trades in game whilst not being able to change a light bulb in real life. Pentamelds are only locked behind crafters so that these people can have a power trip about how all the raiders (the ones actually playing the game) need them to acquire in game strength. I refuse to prostrate myself beneath the crafters' boots, and thus haven't been able to make it past P4S enrage for 3 weeks. If I want to be able to kill bosses in this game I only have 2 choices: waste months of my life leveling crafters, or submit myself to the humiliation of begging for charity melds in Limsa from the very people oppressing me.
    Show me on the doll where the bad crafter hurt you.
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    RobynDaBank's Avatar
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by boyhunter View Post
    I completely agree, Mitsuki. This is just another example of SE kowtowing to the lowest common denominator. As far as I'm concerned, crafters and gatherers shouldn't even be in the game. These are jobs made for people who are so inept at the combat portion of the game, that they dedicate themselves to the trades in game whilst not being able to change a light bulb in real life. Pentamelds are only locked behind crafters so that these people can have a power trip about how all the raiders (the ones actually playing the game) need them to acquire in game strength. I refuse to prostrate myself beneath the crafters' boots, and thus haven't been able to make it past P4S enrage for 3 weeks. If I want to be able to kill bosses in this game I only have 2 choices: waste months of my life leveling crafters, or submit myself to the humiliation of begging for charity melds in Limsa from the very people oppressing me.
    I refuse to believe this was anything but sarcasm. Thanks for making me laugh!
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    Skiros's Avatar
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    Drake Drakon
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    Jenova
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by boyhunter View Post
    I refuse to prostrate myself beneath the crafters' boots, and thus haven't been able to make it past P4S enrage for 3 weeks.
    This is bait but... Btw, for anyone who can't make past P4S enrage for 3 weeks I'm sorry to say but that is not a gear issue. That's a skill issue.
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    DerpyWhiskers's Avatar
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    Roxie Sugarbuns
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by boyhunter View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, crafters and gatherers shouldn't even be in the game. These are jobs made for people who are so inept at the combat portion of the game, that they dedicate themselves to the trades in game whilst not being able to change a light bulb in real life
    That is just about the cringiest thing I've read in years lol. I've got two characters to max crafts along with many maxed combat classes. I see plenty of others also who craft and are also extremely good performers in combat content. Just because some players also like crafting for fun or glamour doesn't mean they are beneath you on some imaginary "elite kool kids only club" gaming ladder. That's just a really gross and degenerate thing to say about your fellow players. Really gross.
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    LauraAdalena's Avatar
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    Carby Adalena
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 90
    1. You can have a friend or FC member or even a random person meld you.

    2. The current level 90 dungeons drop materia from chests, and while you’re grinding you can spiritbond your gear and when it reaches max extract materia. If you get materia you don’t need you can sell it on the MB and make gil, or take it to just north of BlackBrush and transmute the materia into different kinds. And if you get a DOL/DOH materia make even more gil off of it.

    (Other options include: doing content for the “Adventurer in Need” bonus that give cracked clusters, OR doing A-rank and S-Rank hunts.)

    Edit: also your comparison is like a drunk person explaining how to make a soufflé when he’s never made one.
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    Last edited by LauraAdalena; 01-21-2022 at 03:43 PM.


    I'm from 1 MS in the future.

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    NatePride's Avatar
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    Raina Cain
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    Adamantoise
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    Sage Lv 90
    gear is made and repaired by crafters so your driver's license comparison makes no sense.
    a crafter would know how to meld the materia in a DPS/Tank?healer would not.
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    lizardhunter's Avatar
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    Miah Korin
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    Jenova
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    You raiders need to shut up and DEAL with iut. God I am sick of you entiled hardcores demanding us crafters doi your bidding and for freee? Get out. SE should make it HARDER to pentameld and make it so you have to pentameld ALL combat gear. I still find it funny how raiders think savage and ultimate are the hardest thing in this game. look up expert crafts some time
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    Kanella's Avatar
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    Kanella Zesti
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Please consider waiting a couple months for more gear to circulate in the community. If your too poor to afford pentamelds then you shouldn't really complain. I have ZERO crafters leveled and still managed to pentameld some of my gear just by playing the game and requesting melds from other people. If you casually play the game with the intent of trying to improve your gear you will eventually get them over time. I suggest looking at youtubers like Desperius FFXIV for some assistance, I can tell you need it.

    PS. Your comparison is not it. Grow up.
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