Borderless Windowed poor performance (stuttering/seemingly low fps)

[DatOni]

Yup. See my above post for the fix.

It seems like the newest GeForce drivers triggered it for me, but there is a work around I mentioned above so you don't have to downgrade.

Look, okay, I am somewhat Laptop illiterate, so please bear with me.


Intel HD provides my graphics on a Dell laptop. In the control panel, I have an option for Vertical Sync (I assume this is what Vsync stands for, hopefully I'm not that much of a dummy) between "Application settings" and "Driver Settings". I tried switching between the two but it didn't seem to do anything, no matter what FPS option I chose from the FFXIV display settings.

Am I missing something?

EDIT: To wit, my other games like Dota2 are suddenly struggling as well.
Also, windowed mode, not borderless windowed, works perfectly, unless I maximize the window. What on earth is going on here?

[Geirr]

Look, okay, I am somewhat Laptop illiterate, so please bear with me.


Intel HD provides my graphics on a Dell laptop. In the control panel, I have an option for Vertical Sync (I assume this is what Vsync stands for, hopefully I'm not that much of a dummy) between "Application settings" and "Driver Settings". I tried switching between the two but it didn't seem to do anything, no matter what FPS option I chose from the FFXIV display settings.

Am I missing something?

EDIT: To wit, my other games like Dota2 are suddenly struggling as well.
Also, windowed mode, not borderless windowed, works perfectly, unless I maximize the window. What on earth is going on here?

You're right to say Vsync is vertical sync.

Basically what I was saying was you need to run the game uncapped. Vsync disabled. In both the game, and the application settings offered by intel HD for final fantasy. Or if you want to run with a cap, you should always choose your maximum refresh rate in game and never the half rate or quarter rate options offered in game. If the maximum is too fast, on the monitor/display options where the resolution choices are, you can also usually choose a maximum refresh rate. ( 60, 72, 90, 120 on high end stuff. On a laptop, 60 may already be as high as you can go. )

Beyond that, it might be the borderless full screen "optimizations" microsoft rolled out some years ago causing the drop in FPS when you go full screen. You can disable the optimizations, but how depends on what updates you have installed into windows. Some people have to go to the game folder, find the game itself, right click it and go to properties, then disabled full screen optimizations under the compatibility tab.

Others have to go through the built in Xbox game bar to disable it there. You'll have to do some hunting and some google if you can't find it. Wishing you the best luck, my system is a full fledged desktop though, so at least some of us are suffering with you. Lol!

[Puss_Kat]

game hasn't updated, so anything that has happened has done so within your windows environments, check the power/thermal targets of any gpu tools, windows own game mode settings, focus assist, etc.

[Geirr]

Hello!
I've been racking my head around this issue for a long time now. I play in fullscreen mode but for ease of use (and possibly fixing my directx woes) I want to play in borderless windowed. However, when I use borderless windowed I get really stuttery performance.

What I mean by that is my fps reading says the game is running at 82 fps (my cap) but looking at it, it's clearly not. If I switch to fullscreen, buttery smooth, clearly running at 82fps.

I run two monitors. Main one is 1440p 165Hz with Gsync. The other 1080p 60hz no gsync. I've tried a lot of possible fixes but nothing has worked.
Can anyone help me?

I encountered this issue last night, I'll make a proper bug report topic on it shortly. In the meantime, if you were to check your GPU frequency I would bet it is half of what it should be while playing FinFan. Right?

There are two things that have to be enabled for this bug to exist.

1.) "Reduce frame rates while minimized" or whatever it is.
2.) Some kind of frame cap. Be it vsync. Fast vsync. Gsync.

What is occurring: For whatever reason, the driver or the game thinks that the game isn't in focus. The clock rate (speed, power) of the graphics card drops to next to nothing. What should be a smooth 144 or 120 fps experience on a 3080, 3090, becomes a 12-20 fps experience.

How to fix: Turn off the reduced framerate when minimized. Set the frame cap to off, or set it to the full refresh rate of your monitor. Even going down to 120hz from my own 144hz native rate will trigger this bug unless I set the refresh rate of my monitor to 120hz first in the driver suite, and then run "Full" refresh rate in final fantasy.

Let me know if this fixes it for you.

[M0narch]

I encountered this issue last night, I'll make a proper bug report topic on it shortly. In the meantime, if you were to check your GPU frequency I would bet it is half of what it should be while playing FinFan. Right?

There are two things that have to be enabled for this bug to exist.

1.) "Reduce frame rates while minimized" or whatever it is.
2.) Some kind of frame cap. Be it vsync. Fast vsync. Gsync.

What is occurring: For whatever reason, the driver or the game thinks that the game isn't in focus. The clock rate (speed, power) of the graphics card drops to next to nothing. What should be a smooth 144 or 120 fps experience on a 3080, 3090, becomes a 12-20 fps experience.

How to fix: Turn off the reduced framerate when minimized. Set the frame cap to off, or set it to the full refresh rate of your monitor. Even going down to 120hz from my own 144hz native rate will trigger this bug unless I set the refresh rate of my monitor to 120hz first in the driver suite, and then run "Full" refresh rate in final fantasy.

Let me know if this fixes it for you.

I have a 3060 with a 144hz monitor and before today's maintenance I had the fps locked at 72 and it worked, after I encountered an issue with the fps lock(for 144 i had like 90, for 72 i had around 49), but now even with no limit cap it is locked at 41-45

[Astraak]

Would like to add that I was having this issue, and updating my gpu driver to 528.24 appears to have fixed this issue. On 3070ti for what its worth.