So this game has dps checks but we can't talk about our dps in game?

[Colt47]

The thing is that back in heavensward, there was a reason to have a tool to assist in figuring out how to do the best damage simply because of how complicated some of the juggling was. Anyone who played Dark Knight during HW knows exactly how crazy that gets, and most people who remember having to manage TP and also remembering to counter boss critical strikes would remember that.

The new age design they have makes damage dealing incredibly simple on the jobs they have streamlined. As long as someone is paying attention to what the new moves are they get and practices properly when leveling up, they will get better and eventually just click things into place.

The main barrier that comes into play to mastering a job is weak content.

[HappyHubris]

The thing is that back in heavensward, there was a reason to have a tool to assist in figuring out how to do the best damage simply because of how complicated some of the juggling was. Anyone who played Dark Knight during HW knows exactly how crazy that gets, and most people who remember having to manage TP and also remembering to counter boss critical strikes would remember that.

The new age design they have makes damage dealing incredibly simple on the jobs they have streamlined. As long as someone is paying attention to what the new moves are they get and practices properly when leveling up, they will get better and eventually just click things into place.

The main barrier that comes into play to mastering a job is weak content.

You say that, but many players aren't motivated to even do simple things like maintaining DoTs and buffs. Haven't you ever been in a group where the BRD didn't sing or the MNK ignores positionals?

[Colt47]

You say that, but many players aren't motivated to even do simple things like maintaining DoTs and buffs. Haven't you ever been in a group where the BRD didn't sing or the MNK ignores positionals?

Of course I have. I also remember back in ARR when I was a noob running around with a gladiator sword and could barely make it through some of the early guildhests and job quests. Boy have we come a long way since then.

That kind of problem isn't from a lack of tools. The reason that we got that happening is the content being way too easy. People are not being forced into having to use those skills, so they naturally don't learn to use them. Right now the only place that forces optimization is savage. We need content that pushes people hard. People should wipe and die and lose progress. After all, a part of playing a game and having that rush of enjoyment is having felt the sting of loss.

I'm a firm believer that if a community has people complaining about hardship, than we are in a good place and should stay there.