So this game has dps checks but we can't talk about our dps in game?

[Michieltjuhh]

They can. For their own improvement. No one says they cant.

As long as they keep that to themselves.

That's great, yeah, until someone completely full of themselves enters PF, because without any measurement they think they play well, then consistently does a lot less dps than they should, and you're not even allowed to tell them they're not good enough for the groups they're joining, nor talk about what they could/should be improving. Instead you have to hope the leader silently kicks them (or you do it as leader), then pray nobody else in the party a) leaves b) asks why.

And PF is full of those during the first weeks of Savage release. There wouldn't be a problem if trash players weren't so bloody full of themselves, but it seems a lot of people in FF14 never got past that childhood stage where they thought they were the best in the world because they beat their elementary school friends at something. Giving them a reality check about their actual performance compared to more than their own little echo chamber will do a lot to have people try and improve rather than accept unknown mediocrity.