So this game has dps checks but we can't talk about our dps in game?

[Connor]

I think that allowing people to use it but taking action against those using it to harass is an excellent compromise...
I haven't actually heard of anyone getting banned for using it even on Stream.
When someone has been banned for it it's because they acted like complete asshats about it.

I agree with that as well. As I said in my post it doesn’t really matter to me how ‘bad’ a player is - they don’t deserve to be harassed or abused.

What I mean with their ‘refusal to compromise’ is that they’re well aware players are using dps metric tools, then take the official stance of pretending nobody does. But in my opinion if some of the playerbase is incapable of using said programs because of their medium of choice (i.e PS4/5), it’s not much of a compromise, because you still have a portion of players who can’t see this extremely important value. Having to call in a PC player and ask them to spend their time doing you’re incapable of doing isn’t very practical or accessible, especially when those players can do the same thing without requiring any sort external help (other players, not external to the game lol)

Hence, I think a better compromise that encompasses more players would be an in-game system such as Stone Sky Sea or whatever through which players can get a straight up ‘you did X dps’ system notification that nobody else can see. That way players using PS4/5 can still see the metric but in a way that doesn’t encourage harassment or abuse

It does run into the issue of ‘but people will hound others until they tell them their damage’, but that applies now as well, and is rightly a strict violation of the ToC, so surely in such a case someone would still be subject to being punished if they started following and harassing someone for not telling their dps.