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    Player Rinhi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    aggressive? nope, I'm not the one who went on a full blown rant about the evils of cactbot while admitting to cancelling raid nights while being the raid leader because Cactbot wasn't updated

    That was you Imp, entirely you.

    Edit: I just want the people to be under no illusions that you are in any way a voice for the rest of the raid community, you're part of a very small element of "These are for me, not for thee" types which was highlighted by your massive hypocrisy in that thread.

    P.S: The one coming over aggressive here, is you, I'm just stating facts of what you wrote, you seem a bit angry to be exposed? Why is that?
    can you link the post where they said that?
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    Player JanVanding's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    can you link the post where they said that?
    Here ya go, top post is him admitting to cancelling Raid night while being Raid leader, trying to pass the blame off on other people in his Static being uncomfortable doing it without Cactbot.

    Which him being Raid leader of the Static, he could have easily brought subs in.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-engine/page14
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    Here ya go, top post is him admitting to cancelling Raid night while being Raid leader, trying to pass the blame off on other people in his Static being uncomfortable doing it without Cactbot.

    Which him being Raid leader of the Static, he could have easily brought subs in.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-engine/page14
    Linking that thread is not going to do you any favors, it's just going to underscore your tenuous relationship with reality.

    edit: For further context on the situation this person is trying to misrepresent,

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    A member of my raid-group was using it to assist them in solving personal responsibility mechanics that couldn't reliably be called for them by myself, as well as for timeline tracking purposes to prep for upcoming mechs. We had to cancel raid because they refused to attend that day. They were kicked from the static eventually because it turned out they were also using scripts to automate portions of their rotation. People who are willing to shortcut certain things, will often shortcut others.
    We had to cancel the session because we were using non-standard strategies, and people didn't want to mess up loot allocation. When the one member announced they weren't attending, 3-4 other people withdrew as well and we had to wait until wednesday to do reclears.
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    Last edited by LittleImp; 01-27-2022 at 05:14 AM.

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    Player JanVanding's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    Linking that thread is not going to do you any favors, it's just going to underscore your tenuous relationship with reality.
    I don't actually care? But clearly you do because you have some kind of "Reputation" and that reputation is entirely built on falsehoods isn't it?

    I.E: You're getting increasingly on edge because someone caught on to the fact you're actually full of rubbish and continue to espouse that garbage on a daily basis

    You're part of the reason people are afraid of Savage because you created this whole false narrative about the Raid community, making them out to be just like you when most of them are actually chill and super tolerant

    When all along you were Crutching your shotcalling through Cactbot "but, "It wasn't you, was it?" It was your Static.

    A static that you were in charge of that if you felt so strongly against the mod, you could have kicked them and replaced them since your static, but nope, you didn't why?

    Because you stood to benefit and at no point are you ever going to say "Yes I benefitted" because of the whole B.S you gave me and it "Dampening Achievements"
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    Player Rinhi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    Here ya go, top post is him admitting to cancelling Raid night while being Raid leader, trying to pass the blame off on other people in his Static being uncomfortable doing it without Cactbot.

    Which him being Raid leader of the Static, he could have easily brought subs in.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-engine/page14
    did you actually read their post?

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    During this time, Cactbot does not work, including in content that has already been available for months. I've literally been in a static that would cancel Tuesday raids if there was maintenance, because some of the members were not confident enough to get reclears while Cactbot wasn't working
    it's not their fault if members of their static rely on cactbot and refuse to play without it
    not to mention that it says nowhere that they were the leader for the aforementioned static?

    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    I don't actually care? But clearly you do because you have some kind of "Reputation" and that reputation is entirely built on falsehoods isn't it?

    I.E: You're getting increasingly on edge because someone caught on to the fact you're actually full of rubbish and continue to espouse that garbage on a daily basis

    You're part of the reason people are afraid of Savage because you created this whole false narrative about the Raid community, making them out to be just like you when most of them are actually chill and super tolerant

    When all along you were Crutching your shotcalling through Cactbot "but, "It wasn't you, was it?" It was your Static.

    A static that you were in charge of that if you felt so strongly against the mod, you could have kicked them and replaced them since your static, but nope, you didn't why?

    Because you stood to benefit and at no point are you ever going to say "Yes I benefitted" because of the whole B.S you gave me and it "Dampening Achievements"
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    Player JanVanding's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    did you actually read their post?



    it's not their fault if members of their static rely on cactbot and refuse to play without it
    not to mention that it says nowhere that they were the leader for the aforementioned static?
    they were raid leader, that's what the problem was. They could have subbed them out, replaced them (given their super strong stance against it, or so they claim) but chose not to, because they don't in truth feel that strongly, it's all for show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    they were raid leader, that's what the problem was. They could have subbed them out, replaced them (given their super strong stance against it, or so they claim) but chose not to, because they don't in truth feel that strongly, it's all for show.
    We're just going in circles, and this is threatening to derail into an argument about the nature and cost of conviction. I could answer all of your thoughts and allegations point for point, but I think your mind is set and you're more focused on looking for ways to 'counter' what I'm saying, instead of giving my words genuine consideration. People are more than welcome to peruse that thread, as I stated earlier I don't think it's going to help the case you're trying to make.

    Regardless, I think you've misread my character pretty dramatically. Whenever datacenter travel happens to drop, I'd be happy to play with you and yours and see if I can't change your mind.
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    Player Rinhi's Avatar
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    but they did? for someone who doesn't care you're hella pressed about it
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    Just want to say, maximising your damage and seeing how you compare is a very strong motivator to get people to do well, for the pleasure of it alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyHubris View Post
    Why is "helping the group to complete the content" gatekeeping? It's not like gatekeeping based on age, race, or creed - anyone can put time into playing better.

    It's not fair for a group to wipe over and over and waste time b/c players aren't willing to learn anything about playing their class well. FFXIV is deceptive in that a strong rotation isn't necessarily intuitive, and people can be playing badly without realizing it. If someone's not weaving oGCDs or whatever they're going to hurt the fun of the people they're partying with.
    And I can counter argue that it isnt fair for people whom want to raid harder content for the sake of doing so but do to official parsing theyll get barred or bullied off a group due to toxic players using it to excuse that behavior. The minute that tool gets officially introduced I guarantee you that itll cause more problems than good. Weve seen this happen time and time again in other MMOs where the raiding scene just wanes due to toxicity. Already this entire thread is causing toxic barking from all of us. Im no saint either.
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