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    Please lock OCE servers to OCE players (At first)

    Hear me out here please.

    With how crowded the US servers are right now, Im thinking there is going to be a huge flood of US based players jumping over for a number of reasons potentially making things difficult for OCE players looking to transfer over.

    The Bonuses. Silver feathers and 1 mil Gil aside, I can imagine we are going to see a flood of fresh character's taking up names for people just playing for the free 15 days game time with the intent of transferring the character back to US once that opens up or worse, left sitting unused potentially taking someone elses name.

    Housing is a big one, you know US players will be more than happy to lose a little ping to get a house, There are likely quite a lot of OCE players who have been unable to ever get a home due to the ping situation we have. There's a lot of dropping dead to mechanics that didn't hit us in combat, I imagine its the same with the spam clicking the sign with how competitive housing is.

    Im half awake right now and wanted too get this out before the thought fades, Im betting there are going to be other reasons for US players to jump too these servers as well and make life difficult on launch day, But i cant think of them right now.

    As mentioned in the title, Not saying keep people outside the OCE region from rolling/transferring permanently, just at first while there are bonuses and we are trying to get our community sorted then open the flood gates, alternately if it looks like there are not enough of us to keep 5 servers alive.
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    When I suggested it (as an idle thought, I wonder if), someone jumped down my throat and ripped my guts out.
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    I'm not saying I disagree - but how would SE know the difference? There are OCE players on NA servers now. Wouldn't that block them from going to the OCE servers too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    When I suggested it (as an idle thought, I wonder if), someone jumped down my throat and ripped my guts out.
    There is always going to be someone, Glad too see I wasn't the only one worried about this.

    Not being able to transfer due to congestion from US players jumping ship is a bit of a concern for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arillyn View Post
    I'm not saying I disagree - but how would SE know the difference? There are OCE players on NA servers now. Wouldn't that block them from going to the OCE servers too?
    SE knows where you are located in the world, its how they dictate what currency you are charged in... Well... they know your country anyway, They think New Zealand is somewhere in Europe i think as i get charged in Euros.
    It doesn't matter what datacenter region you play in, they know your country and no, you cant change that on your account, i tried awhile back to set it too US so i would be charged in US$ and got told by support that its not possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sililos View Post
    There is always going to be someone, Glad too see I wasn't the only one worried about this.

    Not being able to transfer due to congestion from US players jumping ship is a bit of a concern for me.
    Our congestion isn't that bad anymore though. I really don't think people will jump ship due to that now. It's nothing like it was. I can get on prime time now with no issues in the US. I honestly don't think you need to worry about that aspect of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arillyn View Post
    Our congestion isn't that bad anymore though. I really don't think people will jump ship due to that now. It's nothing like it was. I can get on prime time now with no issues in the US. I honestly don't think you need to worry about that aspect of it.
    The biggest 'draw' is the bonuses we are getting.
    1 mil Gil, Silver Chocobo feathers, 15 days free game time for making and leveling a character to 30.
    Gold Chocobo feathers for character transferring.
    And of course access to fresh housing estates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arillyn View Post
    I'm not saying I disagree - but how would SE know the difference? There are OCE players on NA servers now. Wouldn't that block them from going to the OCE servers too?
    They can probably suss out the player's location based on billing address or other such data-driven things that I know little to nothing about.

    I agree with the OP. People who are in the OCE region should be the ones to populate the data center at first. It's an unfortunate fact that people will go somewhere for short term gains and ruin it for those who will be there for the long run. Let the servers on Materia be a closed system (no realm visit, etc) so they have time to develop their own cultures, figure out social expectations, and build stable economies before letting people from outside the DC go in and stir things up.

    If they do decide to let people actually located in NA, EU, and JP transfer to Materia, they should have a year-long lock on transferring off that server.



    When WoW Classic launched I was on the single RP server because my friends and I wanted an RP guild. It was great until the second day when all the assholes from PvP servers made new characters there because the queues on the RP server were much lower than elsewhere. They completely ruined the server's atmosphere and culture nearly from the get go, turning it in to a steaming pile of Cess Pit of Unusual Size and Unknowable Depth. I was the last one to hang on and even then only lasted until I hit 60 a month later. Everyone else was gone within a couple of weeks.

    I don't want the equivalent to happen to the Oceanic/Aus/NZ players transferring to the data center put up specifically for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arillyn View Post
    I'm not saying I disagree - but how would SE know the difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sililos View Post
    There is always going to be someone, Glad too see I wasn't the only one worried about this.

    Not being able to transfer due to congestion from US players jumping ship is a bit of a concern for me.


    SE knows where you are located in the world, its how they dictate what currency you are charged in... Well... they know your country anyway, They think New Zealand is somewhere in Europe i think as i get charged in Euros.
    It doesn't matter what datacenter region you play in, they know your country and no, you cant change that on your account, i tried awhile back to set it too US so i would be charged in US$ and got told by support that its not possible.
    I get that but do they look at that when transferring characters? I mean I could have an alt on Tonberry and playing with my OCE friends who want to transfer along with the entire FC we are in to the OCE data center and I wouldn't be able to because I pay in US $s? (Playing devil's advocate - I personally don't have an alt on Tonberry.) But people do play on the JP and EU datacenters from the US now, and OCE plays on all 3 and EU plays on all 3. I don't see SE excluding it because they would want to allow friends to go with each other.

    I'm not saying you don't have a reason for concerns, but I really don't think it'll be as bad as you are thinking. Per my other post, congestion in the US has dropped by a LOT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sililos View Post
    The biggest 'draw' is the bonuses we are getting.
    1 mil Gil, Silver Chocobo feathers, 15 days free game time for making and leveling a character to 30.
    Gold Chocobo feathers for character transferring.
    And of course access to fresh housing estates.
    I believe this will happen to all datacenters so people shouldn't be too worried over migrating to the other side of the world with horrible ping. You can only transfer once every 30 or 60 days, something like that so since it's an expansion not just limited to OCE players but to ALL regions, I don't think people should be worried. Ask yourself this, how many people are willing to get rid of their hard earned home, leave their FC and all their "friends" behind? Okay don't answer that... It might be a depressing answer :P
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