What’s the point of Physick for Summoner?

[MellowMink]

Note that I’m specifically talking about the spell for Arcanist and Summoner, not the more useful version that Scholar has.

I think with the exception of maybe the first few dungeons, this spell heals an absolutely pitiful percentage of HP and generally isn’t worth using, so one possibility could be just to remove what’s currently a mostly useless spell from the job like how Fluid Aura was finally removed from White Mage this expansion. However, considering that Red Mage gets to have a cure spell that’s actually pretty useful across various instances, I would prefer that Summoner’s cure spell instead be significantly buffed in healing potency or based off some other magic trait altogether.

I was excited that the spell might finally be useful after seeing it on the director’s hotbar during one of the Endwalker presentations, but that sadly didn’t seem to be the case. Can any developers shine a light on why the spell hasn’t either been removed or matched Red Mage’s useful equivalent yet? Thanks a lot to anyone who read this thread by the way!

[Doragan]

To proc Paladins Divine Veil of course! I'm not casting a GCD for that, sorry /s

I would say it's mostly useful for new players when starting the game solo as an arcanist, until level 30 or so. A low level tool, I guess.

I say that,but it's a real wonder why it hasn't gotten deleted yet.

[DPZ2]

I seriously doubt you'll get an answer from a developer, as they don't post on the forums here (or anywhere).

Resurrection is also a part of the Arcanist/Summoner/Scholar toolkit. You get that at level 12. Both serve to get the player used to the idea that healing might be a possibility at the job split at level 30, where Scholar becomes a healer.

The same argument you use for Physick could be used to remove Resurrection. Why should a DPS who doesn't utilize white magicks (aka Red Mage) heal or resurrect? Not sure if every summoner out there would object, but I could see a number of the complaining about the reduction in yet another of their skillsets.

[Archwizard]

It always comes up in these topics that Physick is just a holdover from Scholar and Summoner being linked, but it must also be noted that when you look at Scholar's Actions & Traits tab, the only skill under the "Class" section is Resurrection.

Which means that Scholar's Physick and Arcanist/Summoner's Physick use separate IDs, much like their Energy Drain and Ruin II skills. The major part that confuses the two is that they share the same description (up to level 85 anyway).

However, it's dreadfully obvious that one job just uses a copy-paste of the other's Physick, given that both versions use Mind as their main stat, so that Summoner's has no value. There's no reason for Summoner to have a Mind-based ability.

[Seraphor]

Not everything needs to accommodate raiding, there's also solo content.
Self sustain is important for things like PotD/HoH.

BLM has manaward, RDM has vercure, SMN has physick.

[rewd]

Not everything needs to accommodate raiding, there's also solo content.
Self sustain is important for things like PotD/HoH.

BLM has manaward, RDM has vercure, SMN has physick.

Tell me you never used Physick outside ARR content without telling me you never used Physick outside ARR content.

[Archwizard]

BLM has manaward, RDM has vercure, SMN has physick.

Ehhh. SMN has Radiant Aegis for that trio, actually. SMN still just gets +Int from upgrades in PotD/HoH, so Physick is still awful in them.

I mean, I'm all for BLM getting Drain for self-sustain in solo content (given the long CD on Manaward) and SMN getting a useful iteration of/alternative to Physick on top of that -- but let's not overstate its usefulness.

[Absimiliard]

To make you cry in the same corner RDM used to be condemned to because of you.

[IruruCece]

To get highlight reels on SICKPHYSICKCRITZ.com

[NobleWinter]

Physick isn't even very desirable on Scholar. It's literally the very last tool you use if absolutely nothing else is available and healing is needed immediately. The fact Summoner shares the worst heal from Scholar and an incredibly worse version at that is peak comedy. Summoner has been long overdue for a rework or removal for Physick. We could do so many cool things with traits to make it worthwhile. Make it instant cast, provide an increased healing received buff on target, it could be a delayed heal to use during down time that procs when the targets health drops. It could do absolutely anything except being a waste of time like it always has been.