Is the game losing players rapidly?

[Jkap_Goat]

Weird. I'm a pretty casual player who doesn't do Savage while it's current and I occupy myself just fine.

I'm very casual myself but I can't lie that the gameplay and same combat and same grinding gear just for a few ilvl increase is getting stale


my sub is going to end soon and I will be back for that works cross server thing but I can't play this game and continue to grind for tombstones until the next patch, and so on ..and so on until the next expansion, been doing this since SB and then I eventually stopped because gear is useless outside of glam

ffxiv is a good theme park mmo, just after the ride is over , there isn't much anything else to do

[Thoosa]

The problem is that unless you do savage and ultimate in a static you’re at the mercy of PF, which is a total lottery. And it’s a time investment for gear that ultimately (boom boom) becomes glamour and the item level increase is not needed for anything else expect ultimate which is an even bigger time investment (and could be almost impossible to clear in PF).

If you don’t do savage in a static or pf there’s extreme trials which seem to have an extremely short shelf life in pf.

In short, 14 lacks accessible group battle content so you’re left with housing, glamour and crafting which some people find boring and kinda the main point of an mmo is group content.

If you compare with WoW, you have Normal, Heroic and mythic raids and dungeons that you can dip in and dip out of and if you do M+ you can stop at any level you like. They don’t need the high level of organisation that savage does (well mythic plus raids might but I haven’t done them) and they’re fast to run and then you can do something else. With PF in savage you could be waiting up to two hours to fill a party, then you enter the instance, do two pulls and then people leave and you repeat the process, it’s a big time sink for little reward.

[anhaato]

Boy I hope so. Give me my nonexistent queues back!

[Vahlnir]

The problem is that unless you do savage and ultimate in a static you’re at the mercy of PF, which is a total lottery. And it’s a time investment for gear that ultimately (boom boom) becomes glamour and the item level increase is not needed for anything else expect ultimate which is an even bigger time investment (and could be almost impossible to clear in PF).

If you don’t do savage in a static or pf there’s extreme trials which seem to have an extremely short shelf life in pf.

In short, 14 lacks accessible group battle content so you’re left with housing, glamour and crafting which some people find boring and kinda the main point of an mmo is group content.

If you compare with WoW, you have Normal, Heroic and mythic raids and dungeons that you can dip in and dip out of and if you do M+ you can stop at any level you like. They don’t need the high level of organisation that savage does (well mythic plus raids might but I haven’t done them) and they’re fast to run and then you can do something else. With PF in savage you could be waiting up to two hours to fill a party, then you enter the instance, do two pulls and then people leave and you repeat the process, it’s a big time sink for little reward.

In WoW, even normal and heroic raids weren't always accessible, especially in recent years. Their group finder tool looks very similar to our PF in that regard with steep requirements for joining. Same for mythic raids and mythic plus dungeons. Having more options doesn't make any of them more accessible. In my opinion, WoW has far too many options. Adding mythic raids and mythic plus dungeons was a mistake, especially when it comes to the biggest portion of any player base, that being the casuals. It gives them less incentive to do much of anything when they can't get anywhere in a reasonable time frame, if at all, when it comes to gearing up.

[LaylaTsarra]

Did people expect 3000+ queues to last? I'm hoping things normalize enough where they drop instances and the afk timer soon. Hunts right now a primary means by which i cap my many alts are not getting pinged on discord for the most part and switching instances for those i manage to find are just too much of a hassle instance swapping.

I have tons of roles to level still and all my craft/gather so I've got lots to do.

[SamSmoot]

I've completed the MSQ, got all my jobs up to 90 (NIN, gathering, crafting), and I run some of the roulettes each day, and try to get the normal mode raids done each week.
Probably averaging 1-2 hours a day now.

[hynaku]

My guess it is with no new content other than raids and savage. By now they should have added more story to the game.

[Jybril]

I'm very casual myself but I can't lie that the gameplay and same combat and same grinding gear just for a few ilvl increase is getting stale


my sub is going to end soon and I will be back for that works cross server thing but I can't play this game and continue to grind for tombstones until the next patch, and so on ..and so on until the next expansion, been doing this since SB and then I eventually stopped because gear is useless outside of glam

ffxiv is a good theme park mmo, just after the ride is over , there isn't much anything else to do

I agree.
The has been the same formula since release.
I would glam much more if trying to do so wasn't limiting nonsense with excuses of limitations, meanwhile with a few added bucks a month, it goes away! (Mog App / extra retainers).
The game has been doing the same rides with different paintings for nearly 10 years.
Some rides are old and need a touch up to be actually fun.
The only reason I play is to craft and sell but that's a crawl now
and I rather not run the same 3 dungeons until I cry myself to sleep.

I hope the Harvest Moon thing takes off in 5.1 so bad...
otherwise, rip, just like most side things they do lmao.

[gumas]

losing player aside, iam more worried that SE decide to give ff14 oceanic server is only because they got swept up to this "ff14 crazy player increase" trend

its all start because wow kinda on bad situation now and youtube trend with that "wow refugee", now that wow is on microsoft hand, things going to change in the future and that new server is not gonna worth of it cost, since people especially the "refugee" will return to wow later

[SturmChurro]

losing player aside, iam more worried that SE decide to give ff14 oceanic server is only because they got swept up to this "ff14 crazy player increase" trend

its all start because wow kinda on bad situation now and youtube trend with that "wow refugee", now that wow is on microsoft hand, things going to change in the future and that new server is not gonna worth of it cost, since people especially the "refugee" will return to wow later

I always thought the amount of worlds they were adding was pretty excessive, but it does future proof things, and there will be more housing available for players. Oceania having.. what was it five worlds (?), is still a bit much, in my opinion. EU definitely needed the additions, however, from what I hear.