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    It would be nice to have like texture packs or whatever but demanding to increase the fidelity overall would just decrease the amount of people who could run it on x. That is a terrible business decision. That being said, the game looks better with each and every expansion so I'm not not sure what some people are on about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin- View Post
    What stops those decade old PCs getting that same upgrade and then once again outperform PS4? Fair if both gets the upgrade
    No one here is saying that PC players can't upgrade. Sure they could. Though, if they have an outdated PC, they'll have to buy more than just a brand new processor. Got to make sure all your parts are compatible. But just because they ~could~ upgrade, doesn't mean all of them are. The fact of the matter is people with lower end PCs are the ones holding up the game from being upgraded to need higher system requirements. That is a irrefutable fact that the Dev team has stated.

    If someone has a decade old PC, if they haven't upgraded yet, chances are they won't until that thing finally kicks the bucket. Cause nothing has made them upgrade yet. And not every PC compenent is compatible with each other. That would be an expensive upgrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    No one here is saying that PC players can't upgrade. Sure they could. Though, if they have an outdated PC, they'll have to buy more than just a brand new processor. Got to make sure all your parts are compatible. But just because they ~could~ upgrade, doesn't mean all of them are. The fact of the matter is people with lower end PCs are the ones holding up the game from being upgraded to need higher system requirements. That is a irrefutable fact that the Dev team has stated.
    Can you provide a source because I'd be interested to read it .


    There are already PC only Armour and NPC/player Texture upgrades and rescaled/sculpted mods that vastly improve the games visuals beyond the current defaults and those mods can run on old hardware with ease


    Ive never know a large MMO developer to hold back upgrading core components of their engine and gfx pipelines because some people refuse to buy modern laptops/Desktops

    Any time there was a major shift in the directX used and or more modern cpu instruction sets implemented or nvidia/amd apis added in , or a vast increase in storage and storage type, the developers gave plenty of warnings before hand that old hardware past a certain capability would no longer be supported , list the requirements in supports links or press articles and such
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izar_Chillen View Post
    Can you provide a source because I'd be interested to read it .


    There are already PC only Armour and NPC/player Texture upgrades and rescaled/sculpted mods that vastly improve the games visuals beyond the current defaults and those mods can run on old hardware with ease


    Ive never know a large MMO developer to hold back upgrading core components of their engine and gfx pipelines because some people refuse to buy modern laptops/Desktops

    Any time there was a major shift in the directX used and or more modern cpu instruction sets implemented or nvidia/amd apis added in , or a vast increase in storage and storage type, the developers gave plenty of warnings before hand that old hardware past a certain capability would no longer be supported , list the requirements in supports links or press articles and such
    Its a old interview but I think this is it.

    https://www.dualshockers.com/final-f...isual-upgrade/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd View Post
    Its a old interview but I think this is it.

    https://www.dualshockers.com/final-f...isual-upgrade/
    That is a par for the course developer response

    WoW had to slowly add in new tech as to not alienate old laptop users .


    More recently they had press releases about hoping their users adopt SSD due to the size of the game install getting way larger and map details getting more intense


    What Yoshi has said certainly isnt " an irrefutable fact " "people with lower end PCs are the ones holding up the game from being upgraded" as spouted by the person i responded to


    Also: thanks for the link
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin- View Post
    What stops those decade old PCs getting that same upgrade and then once again outperform PS4? Fair if both gets the upgrade
    Because on a lot of pcs that happen to be old, it’s more than a single piece of hardware that needs to be replaced due to compatibility
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    Yoshida stated it multiple times over the years (a few weeks ago even, actually), and Phil Spencer as well. FFXIV is very much coming on Xbox, but frankly, with the server log in issues, probably after we get the new data centers.
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    Yoshida have said that are plans to bring it to xbox the main problem is schedule stuff they don't seem to find a opening in it to make the port to xbox but he said that way back when endwalker was still in early production so much could have changed since then
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    That sounds like a hot mess waiting to happen.
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    I mean....FFXI's last paid expansion Seekers of Adoulin was literally the last PS2 game printed in Japan before the end of that console's life over there, and only 2ish years after that did they terminate support for PS2 (JP only at that point) and Xbox 360 (JP?/NA/EU) FFXI clients. SE has definitely shown they are willing to ride certain platforms till the wheels come off the blasted things in the past. They'll only drop PS4 support when it gets to the point the PS3 reached where that small amount of RAM was a massive headache for the team, and dropping the PS3 only happened as quickly as it did because many XIV players upgraded to a PS4 in large numbers really quickly. With the chip shortages stalling PS5 proliferation (technically the combo of bots and the chip shortage) SE is definitely not gonna drop PS4 support for the game until player numbers themselves get there and given PS4's install base and with all the pandemic supply issues, that's not happening anytime soon (the pool of last gen console players is too big and the current gen pool much too small and growing much too slowly).
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