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    AltheSmallfrySamurai's Avatar
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    A'lan Gohr
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    Regarding Yoshida-san's Recent Message to Fans

    To the Dev Team of FFXIV,

    I completely understand how it feels to do your absolute best and still have others yell and cuss and generally be nasty, and this little Lalafell is here to tell you that I'm so proud of what the team has accomplished and in such a relatively short amount of time with the new audio and wonderfully engrossing content. Sure the audio starts bucking like a wild Chocobo at times, but that won't stop Al from finding the silver lining and encouraging others to do the same. ( ' v')9

    to the Torrent of Angry Gamers,
    Yoshida-san gave a message for the verbal threats etc directed at his colleagues and himself to cease - and I couldn't agree more.

    I can guarantee that any and every player who has ever started out tanking or healing and not having a clue what to do has experienced what I'm alluding to.

    Picture this, you're going into a new dungeon/raid/fight determined to do well even though you aren't that competent a player yet and along the way you make a mistake that leads to a party wipe.

    You did your best but came up short, and now suddenly you're being harassed for being a bad tank/healer even though it's a class you love. They call you various obscenities, tell you to quit playing - or in one personal experience, one even went so far to tell me I should commit suicide.

    Didn't really feel like ever playing again at all, did you?

    This is what I imagine exactly what the dev team is currently going through. This is their new duty/dungeon/primal fight and they haven't gotten it figured out yet. Mechanics still aren't clear, the tank isn't sure where best to use defensive cooldowns, and everyone is still getting used to the fight.

    How many of the PUGs have you been in which one or multiple people have been abusive, were actually successful? Or did you give up entirely and leave because people wouldn't stop being so hateful and negative?

    Tanks, how many times were you harassed for not keeping aggro or forgetting your tank stance?

    Healers, how many times were you harassed for letting a party member die because you accidently cast the wrong spell, or forgot about a tank-busting mechanic that led to the tank - and by extension, the rest of the party - wiping?

    Are you honestly going to sit there and do the exact same thing? Shame on you. >:T

    Yes, there are some things wrong right now. Yes, most of the complaints are justified - but most people don't realize the complexity of what they're asking.

    I don't care if people flame me for this or whatever, do your worst if you must but this whole cycle of abuse/harassment has got to ease up. Doesn't help anyone or anything.

    I'm taking a stand and calling for others to do the same because I know how it feels to do your best on something you love and still be treated awfully for it.

    Ask yourselves; do YOU know how it feels?
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    Yes I do, and I have tanksiety ever time I go into DF.
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    Tanking has been made bad proof, yet people still be bad. Tankiety is myth, and tanking is the easiest role in the game.
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    DragoAskani's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Tanking has been made bad proof, yet people still be bad. Tankiety is myth, and tanking is the easiest role in the game.
    Thats like me saying depression is a myth because I have never suffered it. Thats not how the world works. It might work that way in your little bubble in your head darlin, but thats not how it is in the real world. I have never had tankiety or healxiety, but like like any form of nerves, or anxiety it exists for people weither you want to acknowledge it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragoAskani View Post
    Thats like me saying depression is a myth because I have never suffered it. Thats not how the world works. It might work that way in your little bubble in your head darlin, but thats not how it is in the real world. I have never had tankiety or healxiety, but like like any form of nerves, or anxiety it exists for people weither you want to acknowledge it or not.
    Glorious assessment. I would like more than once if possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragoAskani View Post
    Thats like me saying depression is a myth
    The trouble is that it does exist, but there's no way to confirm that someone's actually having a medical level problem with it via in game text. It's something that the majority of the people claiming that they experience it are lying about. Why? Because they think it'll shield them or get them pity points.

    Anxiety, depression, and many other mental disorders are disabilities that people wave around proudly these days, even if they aren't actually diagnosed(proven) to have them.

    Which wouldn't be an issue, EXCEPT, far too many people use these undiagnosed disabilities, that they are proud of, as an excuse for shitty behavior. Or as a tool to manipulate others to condone/accept/approve of shitty behavior. Or in this case, crappy play. If you learn your job, then your nervousness about it will dissipate.

    Of course, then we run into the even softer folk who complain that they have to learn how to play. Demanding that the rest of the world change to suit them. That's really not how the world works. Nor should it be.

    If you want stability of mind, then it has to come from within. Far easier to change the self than it is to attempt to manipulate millions of other people to treat towards your personal whims. Cause if you can't even change yourself, then what chance have you really got at changing other people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Tanking has been made bad proof, yet people still be bad. Tankiety is myth, and tanking is the easiest role in the game.
    I know players who clear Ultimates who have Tanxiety. Tanking is easy, but tanxiety is real. It is not necessarily a rational phenomenon, and it is almost never rooted solely in gameplay confidence. There are other layers to what causes rather good players, or average players, or even new and less skilled players to all feel this same feeling.

    I have tried to get all sorts of people to work through their tanxiety, and each case is different.

    Also, you're unkind and generally all of your posts are unkind and somewhat hateful.
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    Tankxiety is easy to cure. Just don't tank. I'll wait in the queue a little longer for a tank that isn't scared of tanking, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Tankxiety is easy to cure. Just don't tank. I'll wait in the queue a little longer for a tank that isn't scared of tanking, thanks.
    No, the only way to cure tanxiety is for that person to just do more tanking. Its like getting a shot.

    How about stop with this discouraging attitude, be less of a Dilbert and just be more supportive of people whom are trying to learn to tank so that we can get more and better tanks in this game? Tanking is not hard. Dealing with people who have this attitude towards you like what you're showing is and I know we shouldnt try to encourage "special snowflakes" and some folk need to just get over it but we can try to act like rational decent human beings once and practice hard what this game preaches sometimes.
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