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    FudoMyoo's Avatar
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    Fudo Myoo
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 100

    Help! I'm having problem healing GNB mass pull.

    I don't mind mass pull. I love using Art of War to damage.

    However I seems to have a problem keeping tank alive. (Especially GNB)

    I usually Adloquium/Excogitation pre pull, whispering Dawn, Protraction (Aetherpact/Fey Union) on tank. Then I will keep casting Art of War on mobs. This works most of the time, however there are instances where tank just drop death within secs. I will use Lustrate/Emergency Tactics+Adloquium. But they still die.

    Am I doing something wrong? Should I use more Fey Illumination/Dissipation/Expedient?
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    RinaShinomiya's Avatar
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    Catherine Shinomiya
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    Lich
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    Sage Lv 90
    I think sacred soil would be a good start to get that 10% mitigation going.
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    Sorzai's Avatar
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    Atreus Yevon
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    Kujata
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    Monk Lv 90
    i always have lustrate at the ready and depending on how big the pull is, make sure to use sacred soil at your discretion, every little bit helps. but if your tank doesn't pop his defensives then eff him lol that's his fault for dying.
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    The most likely scenario however, is that the GnBs you get are just bad.


    As a GnB main I can tell you, healing this job in dungeons is not hard. Is it harder to heal than warrior? Well, yeah of course, but that's because Bloodwhetting is busted.
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    Szylver's Avatar
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    Lalita Lolita
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FudoMyoo View Post
    I don't mind mass pull. I love using Art of War to damage.

    However I seems to have a problem keeping tank alive. (Especially GNB)

    I usually Adloquium/Excogitation pre pull, whispering Dawn, Protraction (Aetherpact/Fey Union) on tank. Then I will keep casting Art of War on mobs. This works most of the time, however there are instances where tank just drop death within secs. I will use Lustrate/Emergency Tactics+Adloquium. But they still die.

    Am I doing something wrong? Should I use more Fey Illumination/Dissipation/Expedient?
    I main healer and sometimes is my fault because i try to dps to much, but with the release of Endwalker there are a lot of people leveling classes that they are not used to. So don't sweat it.
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    Tanya Fierlaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I had a gnb the other day who claimed that he shouldn't even need to use HoC on trash packs in a wall pull, all he used was rampart and suffice to say he died very quickly. I wasn't gonna bust my balls to heal that, so I asked him to mitigate more after he dropped, he got defensive and called me incapable and I got votekicked (thank god). Idk where this mentality of lemme just hold onto this 25s cd for a rainy day comes from but goodness some people really shouldn't play tank. So besides the lack of soil I'm gonna say you got a bad tank cuz even with soil there's almost nothing you can do if the tank isn't doing their job.
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    RobynDaBank's Avatar
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MsTanya View Post
    I had a gnb the other day who claimed that he shouldn't even need to use HoC on trash packs in a wall pull, all he used was rampart and suffice to say he died very quickly. I wasn't gonna bust my balls to heal that, so I asked him to mitigate more after he dropped, he got defensive and called me incapable and I got votekicked (thank god). Idk where this mentality of lemme just hold onto this 25s cd for a rainy day comes from but goodness some people really shouldn't play tank. So besides the lack of soil I'm gonna say you got a bad tank cuz even with soil there's almost nothing you can do if the tank isn't doing their job.
    Lol, saving those defensives for the argument later I see!
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    Sunhwapark's Avatar
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    Character
    Dear Boy
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Check the tank's buffs in the party/target window to see if they are using their cooldowns, If you see nothing then you gotta start pulling healing potency from the book of magical wonders.

    Expedient is definitely good to use when travelling to pull more dungeon mobs, it's definitely worthwile to use and provides some light mitigation while the tank is rounding mobs up. Though, if the tank is undergeared there is not much that can be done about that situation.
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    Izyla Qalli
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    Cerberus
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MsTanya View Post
    I had a gnb the other day who claimed that he shouldn't even need to use HoC on trash packs in a wall pull, all he used was rampart and suffice to say he died very quickly. I wasn't gonna bust my balls to heal that, so I asked him to mitigate more after he dropped, he got defensive and called me incapable and I got votekicked (thank god). Idk where this mentality of lemme just hold onto this 25s cd for a rainy day comes from but goodness some people really shouldn't play tank. So besides the lack of soil I'm gonna say you got a bad tank cuz even with soil there's almost nothing you can do if the tank isn't doing their job.
    Casually levelling sage through SHB dungeons lately and I've had GNBs who were either gods or made of paper lol. Did a Malikah's Well with GNB who died on the first pull, I assumed it was my fault but then realised he just didn't use anything. He pressed HoS maybe twice through the entire dungeon? Queued again right after and got a different GNB in the same dungeon who I could keep up just cycling Kerachole into Taurochole and some minor cds pretty much. The difference between some tanks is like night and day sometimes.
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    Player Mortex's Avatar
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    Rigor Mortex
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Izyla View Post
    Casually levelling sage through SHB dungeons lately and I've had GNBs who were either gods or made of paper lol. Did a Malikah's Well with GNB who died on the first pull, I assumed it was my fault but then realised he just didn't use anything. He pressed HoS maybe twice through the entire dungeon? Queued again right after and got a different GNB in the same dungeon who I could keep up just cycling Kerachole into Taurochole and some minor cds pretty much. The difference between some tanks is like night and day sometimes.
    Expect if you play drk,even when I did rotate my cooldowns in dungeons from lvl 81 too 90 I always thought “Jesus/healer take the wheel”.
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