Wait... there are reskins of the freaking ZODIAC WEAPONS?!?

[Ath192]

Ok, ok, shit on me all you like all of you with tons of wolf marks, but do you really think it's ok to make a pvp set a crafted item? Let people have something to work towards! Not everyone starts with 20k wolf marks, you know!

No I don’t think it’s fine, and people saying it’s better because it gives people the options to acquire the same glamour are not focusing on the bigger picture and the opportunity cost of that statement. For every repeat gear we see in game we just lost the opportunity to witness unique and awesome creations in the name of laziness.

This is like giving a player the same food everyday at a cafeteria with a subscription because the cook doesn’t want to bother with new recipes.

Getting a re-used set is a huge loss for the player base every time it happens.

[Iscah]

No I don’t think it’s fine, and people saying it’s better because it gives people the options to acquire the same glamour are not focusing on the bigger picture and the opportunity cost of that statement. For every repeat gear we see in game we just lost the opportunity to witness unique and awesome creations in the name of laziness.

To a degree, yes. But it's also likely that they don't have the budget to produce a whole set of new designs for every set of gear they need to produce at a gameplay level.

Overall, Endwalker certainly had too many recycled sets, though I suspect COVID and the ever-increasing number of exclusive job sets are cutting into that.

Still, that's irrelevant to the immediate complaint that, given that recycled sets are a thing, reusing this particular PVP set as a non-PVP set is somehow devaluing the original.

[Duskane]

Ok, ok, shit on me all you like all of you with tons of wolf marks, but do you really think it's ok to make a pvp set a crafted item? Let people have something to work towards! Not everyone starts with 20k wolf marks, you know!

I think its ok since they updated the texture
the pvp set looks like some cheap costume you get
while lvl 80 crafted set actually look like it has armor on it


generally i hate recolor when they are made worse like Mhach gear to Facet gear
but wolf marks are really not hard to get anyway

[Saraide]

Ok, ok, shit on me all you like all of you with tons of wolf marks, but do you really think it's ok to make a pvp set a crafted item? Let people have something to work towards! Not everyone starts with 20k wolf marks, you know!

Yep, so much work for queueing up for your daily frontline, run around like a headless chicken and get the rewards all the same.

[Reimmi]

Ok, ok, shit on me all you like all of you with tons of wolf marks, but do you really think it's ok to make a pvp set a crafted item? Let people have something to work towards! Not everyone starts with 20k wolf marks, you know!

??
lol it takes like 5 frontlines to get a full set
i really don't get this complaint man, i hate reskins as much as the next guy but you're barking up the wrong tree w/ this one

[Alpheus]

Some of y'all would lose your minds if you realized how much from FFXI XIV uses. As recently as a a EW added skill for a particular job. Which personally I don't mind one bit, I just wish the more cool and badass looking spell effects from XI made their way to XIV if anything if only to see them in HD lol.

[hfang]

Some of y'all would lose your minds if you realized how much from FFXI XIV uses.

XII as well. Be it monster models, character "skeletons" (I'm pretty sure the PLD running animation is just Vaan's one-handed sword run cycle from XII...) and I'm sure lots of other things

[Iscah]

I also took some texture comparison pictures of the gear previously:

Comparing the Republican and Classical Medicus set (specifically the chiton, wrist torque and caligae).
The chiton is dyed Snow White and the caligae Metallic Brass in both examples.

In this case it was a glamour I'd already made with the old version of the set and, as much as the updated textures look nice, the dye pattern and white feathers of the original work better for the outfit.

[Darkstride]

Ok, ok, shit on me all you like all of you with tons of wolf marks, but do you really think it's ok to make a pvp set a crafted item? Let people have something to work towards! Not everyone starts with 20k wolf marks, you know!

It's a different color set than what the PvP gear has. While they have the same model, they aren't identical. I was actually really excited because I love the caster head and gloves, but the colors didn't really work well mixed with other sets (even dyed). The crafted caster set has colors and dyability that work better for me.

[Lunalepsy]

I'm several years too late on this, I'm sure, but having recently acquired and finished my first Zodiac weapon (Excalibur & Aegis), I was honestly stunned today when I joined a group, and saw a guy wielding the same weapon -- except it was simply a green item.

I'm personally hoping to finish one of each expansion's Relic weapons, if only to experience more of the story. But I'm not gonna lie, knowing there could well be easy-to-access reskins of any of those weapons... that kills a lot of the excitement, and feeling of these weapons being "special".

I've heard people complain about reskins and recolors before, but that's the first instance I'd encountered where I genuinely felt like something I'd earned was suddenly *less cool*, because such an easy-to-access version exists.

*Gasp* OMG! You are right!