Why is Ninja always the weakest melee?

[Fourbestintoner]

The weakest and least played job for no reason, when it doesn't even have real utility anymore?

[Katie_Kitty]

Don't know what you're talking about. For years Ninja was a mandatory party member for every raid group. So yeah I don't personally have much sympathy for them.

[Anhra]

I really dislike on what Squeenix did to Assassinate on NIN. The Job feels incomplete without it.

[Equitable_Remedy]

They hate us 'cause they ain't us.

[Fourbestintoner]

It has never been *mandatory*, especially not compared to drg.

[Ramura_Sono]

It has never been *mandatory*, especially not compared to drg.

It has literally been "mandatory" for as long as Dragoon has.


Every Jobs rotation was literally built to fit as much as possible into Trick Attack. Nin also had the ability to manipulate enmity to a degree no other job could. No singular job has had as much impact on the way the game is played as NIN.

[zcrash970]

Because SE hates actual utility and job synergy. All this began with drg+brd piercing debuff and trick attack 10% vuln.

Instead of figuring out interesting ways to make other jobs bring interesting things or sheer power, they make everything simple in terms of job design. Though they still can't balance that well...

Ninja has a damage buff for the party every minute so you get a tax

[Anhra]

Because SE hates actual utility and job synergy. All this began with drg+brd piercing debuff and trick attack 10% vuln.

Instead of figuring out interesting ways to make other jobs bring interesting things or sheer power, they make everything simple in terms of job design. Though they still can't balance that well...

Ninja has a damage buff for the party every minute so you get a tax

What really annoys me is how Squeenix handles Dps- and Mitigation Buffs. Instead of giving, for example, a Tank a -30% dmg recieved Buff or Buffing already existing ones, they instead distribute those Buffs evenly among all Jobs, so that everyone gets that silly +5% to +10% bonus instead.

Just give only Tanks the dmg mitigation tools, only healers the heal modifiers and only dps Jobs their damage increase.

[Vatom]

Just give only Tanks the dmg mitigation tools, only healers the heal modifiers and only dps Jobs their damage increase.

Been saying this concept for years but I think the reason they did this is to allow some sort of flavor back in the day that now they dont want to change

[Powercow]

It has literally been "mandatory" for as long as Dragoon has.


Every Jobs rotation was literally built to fit as much as possible into Trick Attack. Nin also had the ability to manipulate enmity to a degree no other job could. No singular job has had as much impact on the way the game is played as NIN.

Don't forget Goad was a ninja-only ability for a long time, in an era where running out of TP was a constant issue.

Ninja has historically been pretty powerful. That's not to excuse it being weak now -- a job being historically strong or weak should have no bearing on how strong it is currently.