Why is Ninja always the weakest melee?

[Hanayumi]

Yeah... Nin is just one of those jobs that is very very busy but just doesnt feel as rewarding as other jobs that require less effort, there are some folks just love the busy work though.

[Vatom]

I kinda chuckled at this realizing HW ninja was just a utility belt.

Nin really isn’t bad and where we are in strength isn’t either, poor drg wish to be relevant now

Granted yes I would love more dmg that’s everyone but to say nin is the weakest nah

It’s still rewarding but I can understand people wish for more when in ShB nin could keep up with the best of your good at uptime

But I will acknowledge that in the form of trick attacks you do give dps for buffs this been true since HW but that is nin and it’s hard to give them high dmg without over shadowing other jobs that don’t have buffs… though reaper wtf

[Siraen]

I like how people here are okay with NIN being weak because it was strong 2-3 expansions ago lmao.

[Shurrikhan]

I like how people here are okay with NIN being weak because it was strong 2-3 expansions ago lmao.

You mean for the majority of each expansion prior to this one? And not merely "strong", but a top 2-3 job.

I'll agree that prior history provides no excuse for present imbalances, but this "always the weakest" narrative the OP is trying to sell is just afactual woemongering.

[Naoki34]

Why did Square Enix decide to make ninja the weakest melee dps? They already are the weakest for solo content. Say you're wanting to farm or do fates, you won't have as easy of a time as any other melee class. We mostly benefit the group with our trick attack buff, but even when considering that damage bonus our overall dps contribution is still the lowest.

Why is the class punished in solo play and in group play? While things that accel in solo play for some reason get to be the best in group play as well. There's no give and take. One style just reigns supreme and I think that's unfair. I saw talks of how they intend on buffing some other classes but didn't really see any mention on ninja while it has the lowest class representation for melee, on top of the worst dps. I really do hope it gets some more improvements.

Weakest ?
https://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...acter/2250645/

Think already about meld your stuff, optimize your critical rate, Hit and some soft cap of Skill Speed.

Then maybe learn to master your job.

The number of beginners I see who complain that they can't hold aggro, heal badly or don't dps. But don't put any meld, ask yourself the right questions.

[Kyofu]

My post wasn't based off of my experience. It's based off of statistics. On FFlogs you can see that ninja indeed has the lowest dps of all the melee jobs. You can also see that it has the least amount of parses of all classes, not just melee dps.
https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...t=95&class=DPS

[Vahlnir]

The next patch is on Tuesday, which will hopefully bring some semblance of balance to NIN and other jobs. They said that they don't plan to nerf anyone, but will instead bring some jobs up to par with Reaper which is pretty dang strong at the moment.

[RHarris1349]

No, it hasn’t. It’s always been top-tier. Nice attempt, but I’ve seen better.

[Maxilor]

Trick Attack.

/thread

[ZiraZ]

Trick Attack.

/thread

is kinda meh even when optimized for max group output
I mean redmage embolden is up there with it lmao