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  1. #31
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    Siraen's Avatar
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    Siraen El'zeka
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    I like how people here are okay with NIN being weak because it was strong 2-3 expansions ago lmao.
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  2. #32
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Siraen View Post
    I like how people here are okay with NIN being weak because it was strong 2-3 expansions ago lmao.
    You mean for the majority of each expansion prior to this one? And not merely "strong", but a top 2-3 job.

    I'll agree that prior history provides no excuse for present imbalances, but this "always the weakest" narrative the OP is trying to sell is just afactual woemongering.
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  3. #33
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyofu View Post
    Why did Square Enix decide to make ninja the weakest melee dps? They already are the weakest for solo content. Say you're wanting to farm or do fates, you won't have as easy of a time as any other melee class. We mostly benefit the group with our trick attack buff, but even when considering that damage bonus our overall dps contribution is still the lowest.

    Why is the class punished in solo play and in group play? While things that accel in solo play for some reason get to be the best in group play as well. There's no give and take. One style just reigns supreme and I think that's unfair. I saw talks of how they intend on buffing some other classes but didn't really see any mention on ninja while it has the lowest class representation for melee, on top of the worst dps. I really do hope it gets some more improvements.
    Weakest ?
    https://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...acter/2250645/

    Think already about meld your stuff, optimize your critical rate, Hit and some soft cap of Skill Speed.

    Then maybe learn to master your job.

    The number of beginners I see who complain that they can't hold aggro, heal badly or don't dps. But don't put any meld, ask yourself the right questions.
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  4. #34
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    Character
    Shino Kyofu
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 90
    My post wasn't based off of my experience. It's based off of statistics. On FFlogs you can see that ninja indeed has the lowest dps of all the melee jobs. You can also see that it has the least amount of parses of all classes, not just melee dps.
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...t=95&class=DPS
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  5. #35
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    Character
    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    The next patch is on Tuesday, which will hopefully bring some semblance of balance to NIN and other jobs. They said that they don't plan to nerf anyone, but will instead bring some jobs up to par with Reaper which is pretty dang strong at the moment.
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  6. #36
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    RHarris1349's Avatar
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    Kanti Haruhara
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    Exodus
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    Paladin Lv 90
    No, it hasn’t. It’s always been top-tier. Nice attempt, but I’ve seen better.
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  7. #37
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    Maxilor's Avatar
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    Character
    Pocket Prince
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 57
    Trick Attack.

    /thread
    (1)
    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

  8. #38
    Player Fourbestintoner's Avatar
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    Character
    Melodiane Valerian
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    Masamune
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    Black Mage Lv 42
    The thing that increases rdps by like 600-700 at best?
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  9. #39
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Because of the law of ninjitsu. There more ninjas there are, the worse they get.
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  10. #40
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    Zira Zira
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    Trick Attack.

    /thread
    is kinda meh even when optimized for max group output
    I mean redmage embolden is up there with it lmao
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