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    Shibi's Avatar
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    Lala Felon
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    Not sure where you get 1 and 5 from at all. 2, 3 and 4 also seem a bit weird.

    In fact I am super curious as to the real meaning to your post OP. I wonder what your underlying, veiled meaning is?
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

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    Player SeiyaSoiya's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Not sure where you get 1 and 5 from at all. 2, 3 and 4 also seem a bit weird.

    In fact I am super curious as to the real meaning to your post OP. I wonder what your underlying, veiled meaning is?
    I was hoping it was all true
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    I was hoping it was all true
    Sorry, it's not. Heaven doesn't exist. There is no land of milk and honey.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

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    Thea Sitori
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    There is one paradise about JP data centers, savage raiding is a normal thing because they have up to 25-30% clear rates on all the servers. While NA forums you get pockets of people who think it's just 1% of the game or something in their little bubble.

    While raid finder is normally used. JP players that can't pull their weight in Raid finder queue, people just quietly vote to abandon duty and avoid conflict. Not worth making arguments and risking a ban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    While raid finder is normally used. JP players that can't pull their weight in Raid finder queue, people just quietly vote to abandon duty and avoid conflict. Not worth making arguments and risking a ban.
    It's not about "not risking a ban", it's social etiquette that they wouldn't want to call people out in the first place.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 01-18-2022 at 01:28 PM. Reason: Replaced word "just" with "about".

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    2 is false. I run into a LOT of bad parties. I've seen some mistakes I've never witnessed in western datacenters. It's even more frustrating in the japanese servers because they have a culture of not trying to teach anyone.

    Things are only priced low in there because most players are self-sufficient.

    EDIT: 1 is also false. Japanese have a habit of talking behind other people's back rather than say it to their faces. It extends to the game as well.
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    Mihovil Jollasch
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    Every server has its issues
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    Laethoran Arventi
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    Speaking as someone on Tonberry.

    1. No one's toxic, or it's a rare enough occassion because we don't really use shout or public chat. The Japanese are largely silent, and the rest of SEA follows suit. The only shout we do use is for LFG for hunts, or say for idle chatter in Limsa. Yes, the servers are polite. Being able to make friends is a complete fallacy. You get out what you put in, and that does mean finding an English speaking community and obviously building up your rep and goodwill for people to speak to you, but no one really cares where you come from. It's whether you can even speak the same language or not. We mostly use Auto Translate for instance greeting, and goodbye. Macros' for raids cross language are rarely used as the JP all state 'JP only' parties.
    2. True, the Japanese have a different philosophy where they use roulettes once they have actually mastered the content, Not as a ground to learn in. This come down to them having an expectation you learn and practice with raid/trial groups before subjecting others to poor performance. I'm not gonna lie and say I've not ridden the coat tails of success and been carried through some basic, non extreme Eden stuff having gone in blind but been picked up by eastern angels. Debates or disagreements comes down to whether you can even speak the same language or not. The Japanese are polite to a fault. Doesn't mean they don't think you're an idiot and would rather not group with you. Especially as an Outsider.
    3. False, while the economy is healthy. It's the same behavioural patterns across the board. If someone's got something to sell, then they're going to undercut whoever is currently the cheapest. That's just standard human behaviour, though there are profits to be made.
    4. 1) Manners of the japanese,2) less use of shout and say publicly, outside of guilds or fraternities, while there's gonna be swearing every now and then, I've only ever seen it in context. ie. 'f**ck me, I accidentally deleted something I shouldn't have". Guild chat, all bets are off.

    5. HA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh sweet summer child, how wishful the thinking. There is no housing. It is jam packed. Whoever told you this is spinning you absolute BS.

    Final point. While there's a spectrum of receptiveness to outsiders from the Japanese, there are more than enough that you can confidently say that they don't like you, or want you there. You make them uncomfortable as they can't communicate with you, and you are from a different background. Again, they're not going to say that to you as they are far too polite. But that's the truth of it. They are delighted that OCE is getting our own DC as they want us off and it couldn't come quick enough.

    So knowing the above, while it has it's good points, it's no the paradise you think. It's just got a lot less BS than NA.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nafreyu View Post
    Macros' for raids cross language are rarely used as the JP all state 'JP only' parties.
    I've seen plenty of English speakers using macros.

    As for housing, it used to be that you could just walk up and buy a plot, but it hasn't been like that for a while.
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    Kurotora Iga
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    There is problems, but people only queu up for dutyfinder if they know they can do it, the fact is that they prove that you do not need a stable static group to complete stuff with, which in fact make it a better game over all, as people get to see more people.
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