Thread: 7.0 speculation, but not about the story

They need LESS shaking things up the formula, not more.
Every time they radically depart from the formula, the results range from "absurdly horrible and dropped for all future expansions" to "stuff that's more-or-less okay, but not as well liked as the main content."
They've yet to outdo the core dungeons/trials/raids/24-man/Extreme/Savage stuff, and I don't think they should even try.

... which is WHY people more speculate on where the story's going, what the new jobs will be, etc.

Originally Posted by Thalesnm

So far, basically every discussion online about 7.0 has been about the story. Understandable, of course, but this game is much more than that.

I would like to have a conversation about other aspects of the game, such as the overall structure and gameplay loop. Because, just like with the story, 7.0 will be a great opportunity to innovate in these aspects.

Personally, I don't have a clue about what I would do if I were a dev. I just feel like the game needs to significantly shake the formula. It's been great so far, Shadowbringers and Endwalker were amazing, but we can't expect that formula to work forever and I'd hate to leave the game for lack of innovation.

Do you have any ideas?

One new Job, level capped at 99, item level cuts off at a certain number, all progression becomes vertical at that point. Everything added post 7.0 is some kind of iterative long form adventure style grind content.

Announcement of a new MMO and the end of FFXIV.

Originally Posted by Jennah

I don't think they should even try.

This is an awful thing to say.

So long as they keep getting more sub numbers than they can handle, I don't think they'll deviate much from the core formula.

Maybe some tweaks to it though, I could see them making lock-outs role based. We have a lot more jobs now than we did back in ARR, when the foundations of the current formula were put in place.

Originally Posted by Floortank

One new Job, level capped at 99, item level cuts off at a certain number, all progression becomes vertical at that point. Everything added post 7.0 is some kind of iterative long form adventure style grind content.

Announcement of a new MMO and the end of FFXIV.

Sure, they might be working on a new MMO but I don't think they will announce it yet. They only discussed the possibility of working on a new FF MMO once 6.0 launches. It takes about 5 years to develop an MMORPG so if there's anything about this, we might hear about it in 2025 - 2027. Good developers don't just appear from the heavens, they are in high demand and hard to come by especially in Japan. I don't think their formula will change, has it changed for FF11? I know there's Eureka, PotD and other content like it in FF14 which specifically addresses re-leveling and alternate skills/spells system or have its own limitation including limited jobs which we're probably going to see more of. This is a Japanese MMORPG, we will hit level 100 and we will become stronger just as we have been doing. They can't change their formula but they can add side content like Eureka to change things up a little.

I wouldn't be opposed to an Open-Zone PvP experience if they did it like Cyrodiil in the original ESO. Open PvP in the overworld is a big NO NO.

PvP in PvP Venus only, no open world PvP.

I play this game to relax, not worry that there is a Ninja somewhere who is about to kill me.

Originally Posted by myahele

Open world PvP will shake things up I think. Either limit it to 7.0 areas or have it be part of the Eureka/Bozja-like content.

That would get me to leave. BIG NOPE.

Originally Posted by Thalesnm

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Do you have any ideas?

Well, I for one would love for them to get past the limitations of Playstsation, and have the world areas more open, and have fewer instances esp in older zones ie ARR/HW content. I would enjoy being able to fly much higher, so the fog and clouds are below us. I see a few hints that they are considering some changes like this in the future as in the Endwalker zone that has an area inside a building which forces your mount to not fly.

Basically a "Cataclysm" level zone improvement for the older content.