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    Zahhak Negril
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    DRK Pain

    Just wanna vent. DRK has been my main since Stormblood and While I wasn't the Hugest fan of the Shadowbringers Changes, It's just not fun anymore. Living Dead makes it so out of my control I can do everything right and still die for no reason. TBN if it doesn't break feels like a waste, Oblation feels like barely half an ability (like its effect should just be on TBN honestly). Abyssal Drain is basically useless in Raid Content and heals less than Souleater.
    The class just feels like I use delirium, Throw every Ability/OGCD at the boss, then i'm stuck pressing my basic combo for 2 minutes rinse and repeat till the boss dies or I get killed cause Living Dead wasn't Healed all the way

    I use to love this class but now i don't even wanna bring it with friends cause I'll be more of a burden to our healers then anything
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    You're basically preaching to the choir here. If you check the tank section of the forums you'll find a 206 page megathread with complaints about both the ShB and EW DrK design... and that is certainly not the only thread about DrK.
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    When I heal DRKs that use TBN, I can 100% assure you, it doesn't feel like a waste to me. Living Dead has long needed a rework and SGE is the only healer that absolutely can't save a DRK from LD if they already blew everything before WD wears off as it's not a burst healer.
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    Last edited by Quintessa; 01-15-2022 at 03:53 PM.

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    Lyaeria Rikason
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quintessa View Post
    [...] SGE is the only healer that absolutely can't save a DRK from LD [...]
    And scholar.
    But yeah, if I don't have a WHM or AST, I know that I will only have extended my life warranty by 10s.
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    LD is still pretty easy to heal on SCH. Just got to use your kit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    LD is still pretty easy to heal on SCH. Just got to use your kit.
    Sure, but it still eats like 3x the amount of resources than any other invuln which makes it just flat out bad.
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    I play all four tanks heavily, mained WAR in Savage for Shadowbringers, and I'm loving DRK in EW. It has a DPS feeling even with big tank cooldowns, and I've had problems tanking literally nothing.

    It can't self sustain like a WAR but that's an unimportant feature most of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    I play all four tanks heavily, mained WAR in Savage for Shadowbringers, and I'm loving DRK in EW. It has a DPS feeling even with big tank cooldowns, and I've had problems tanking literally nothing.

    It can't self sustain like a WAR but that's an unimportant feature most of the time.
    Drk can be good tbh but there's a lot of thing that are less fun about it. Living dead stayed the same when holmgang and superbolide got buffed, tbn punishing you if you use it at a wrong timing (well it pops fast now so at least there's that), salted earth got changed and i don't find it good (you can't place it anymore, it's more like a nerf imo), dark mind is situational and easly becomes useless, blood weapon still doesn't have stacks and that's more a personnal thing but delirium being almost the inner release isn't great imo we have already war so at least making delirium more different would be a good thing imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juzjuzz View Post
    Drk can be good tbh but there's a lot of thing that are less fun about it. Living dead stayed the same when holmgang and superbolide got buffed, tbn punishing you if you use it at a wrong timing (well it pops fast now so at least there's that), salted earth got changed and i don't find it good (you can't place it anymore, it's more like a nerf imo), dark mind is situational and easly becomes useless, blood weapon still doesn't have stacks and that's more a personnal thing but delirium being almost the inner release isn't great imo we have already war so at least making delirium more different would be a good thing imo.
    It's a harder version of WAR. Maybe switch to that? I am highly enjoying DRK, to the point that I am switching off WAR for it. The damage is attractive. I tend to run with good healers too, and I've never needed LD outside of Savage or certain extremes. Fricken Titania lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    It's a harder version of WAR. Maybe switch to that? I am highly enjoying DRK, to the point that I am switching off WAR for it. The damage is attractive. I tend to run with good healers too, and I've never needed LD outside of Savage or certain extremes. Fricken Titania lol.
    Where is the hard thing in the problems that i listed tho ? Delirium got easier and even salted earth make the rotation more fluid. Blood weapon needs a good skill speed to find, but even with the greatest skill missing one hit can happen because it's not practical (even players that are the top complain about it). Even tbn is not hard to use at worst case use it on tankbusters only. Dark mind will become useless not matter what if there's no magic dmg, unlike any other defensive CD that you can use any time. Living dead isn't hard for the drk player, it's hard for the healers at most. In fact as a drk you can't say living dead is hard to use, you got all the time in the world to use it correctly.

    I don't think war is easier, the difficulty isn't on the damage but on playing defensively imo. And personnaly i feel on auto pilot with drk after the opener, not saying i play perfectly but it feels easier than a dps imo.
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