[devPLEASE] Dynamic World - If Ever You Do Something - Do This!

[Alhanelem]

The whole Chain is like 20% of the system

It's the mere fact that it's part of the system. It doesn't matter if it's the whole system or even the majority part.

reduce in graphics

The graphics aren't being "reduced." they're being optimized. FFXIV currently hogs way more resources than it should really need to render the level of graphics it is capable of displaying. The "copy paste" was due to a lack of time to create enough assets to fill out the size of the world they were going for.

Who's the one who doesn't know what they're talking about now?

the crafting system in XIV is nothing good

i thought it was pretty good. If it was that bad, it would have been totally replaced with something else.

You need to be careful how you word your thoughts. The way you're writing now, you sound like a GW2 fanboy or an FFXIV hater- you're not being objective.

[viion]

It's the mere fact that it's part of the system. It doesn't matter if it's the whole system or even the majority part.

It does, because there is lots of stuff to the quest system, there isnt "Go talk to X, go kill Y, finish back at X" which is XIV's tool, that is skipped by not even talking in GW2, and then there is tons more features on top which make the questing system so much more unique and better.

You can white knight out your ass for sure, but you cant sit there and say XIV is doing it right and doesnt need improving.

[Alhanelem]

It does, because there is lots of stuff to the quest system, there isnt "Go talk to X, go kill Y, finish back at X" which is XIV's tool, that is skipped by not even talking in GW2, and then there is tons more features on top which make the questing system so much more unique and better.

You can white knight out your ass for sure, but you cant sit there and say XIV is doing it right and doesnt need improving.

I'm not white knighting, but you sure are black knighting. Nowhere did I, or even anyone else in this thread say ffxiv is perfect and doesn't need any improvements. However, it doesn't have to copy some other game in order to improve.

At least that'll be the case until the set of quests resets back.

Therein lies my point. You do get the "living" feel, but you have a cycle that eventually repeats. Nothing you do has a permanent impact. GW2 seems to me to be masking the flaws of an old system more than truly correcting them. I'm not saying it's a bad game either, but you're basically coming into this thread, slamming FFXIV, and lavishing GW2 with praise, without a lot of substance to explain your position. Any time someone pokes holes in your argument, they're "white knighting." I've seen this time and time again.

[Griss]

In this thread we see fanatics of two tribes clash.

[Alhanelem]

And we are not saying copy, we mean TAKE IDEAS FROM.

So yes you are white knighting like a king.

You don't make any sense whatsoever. I'm not white knighting at all.

Again, please quote the place where I said FFXIV is perfect and needs no improvements.

AGAIN, FFXIV needs to innovate, not copy what other games are doing. And yes, taking ideas from is copying. Every game from FFXIV to Guild Wars to Mario Kart to Tetris borrows in some way or another from another game. But it's what each game does that's different that matters.

The above is not "white knighting". I'm sure what GW2 does works great for GW2. I'm sure it's a totally great game. This doesn't however mean that other games need to be more like GW2 to be good games. You are the one white knighting if you are naive enough to believe that GW2 is the model game that everyone else needs to imitate. FFXIV isn't perfect, but neither is GW2. I'm not hating or loving on either game. I'm being fair and reasonable with respect to both.

There's a HUGE difference between "white knighting" and offering objective criticisms of each side. Silly put downs like that are easy to throw out but in reality serve no purpose. Play the games that appeal to you, rather than insist that the ones that don't must be like the one that does. No game developer can please everybody and it doesn't even make sense to try.

[MrKupo]

You won't just see the one event at this village. "We tried to layer multiple chains over the same locations," Johanson tells us, and this is why the player who logged out early may have to wait a while to see that event again. But that's not necessarily a bad thing; "Say you log off and your buddy has this awesome event on Friday night where he defends the frog-people's home city from Orrian undead that are trying to destroy the entire village,"

What does that imply???? The events reset. A quote from an interview over at IGN.
http://pc.ign.com/articles/108/1089082p1.html

Upon Doing more research on this particular matter, I found more information on the way the questing works. You will have a chance to experience the quests you missed eventually based on this:

Colin Johanson: They don't necessarily have an end. They're cyclical in nature, so as the events chain across the map they can be pushed back the other way, or the chain will alter and then come back around. It always feels like a natural chain where the course of events makes sense.

But like I said before, this is a great innovation (despite people hyping it up to be more than it is). The rest of the game is a lot like any other MMO. Think about it, if the developers truly made an actual dynamic world, at some point the chains would have to end. All the dialogue and event triggers don't write themselves (unless of course the devs created that kind of AI system). The devs have stated that they made thousands of quests that chain together. At some point, all of those quests will have been completed by the players. It would be stupid to not have them repeat in some way or the other, because then they'd be stuck having to write new content only to be completed once (sometimes by a single player). The funny thing is that it is being hyped to the point that people are thinking that if you do something during a quest, you are going to effect the whole world permanently. You will do something and it'll effect the quest line and hopefully events that they are connected to. And then at some point, the villagers will find a way to build the bridge again so that new players have a chance to experience the amazing dynamic event.

[aikawananase]

im suppose to read this?

[Amsai]

I just want to have fun in my preferred fantasy setting, and I like the direction GW2 is going about their OW stuff. I really do like the dungeons, primals, lore, and story of FFXIV, just not much of the other stuff. I'll just say this last thing and I am done. I dont care how they implement it or what it is exactly, but this game desperately needs fun, enguaging, frivolous content. Not crap that requires 8 men, and nothing that has any real difficulty or serious rewards. Just stuff to do for the love of god, and just for FUN. It would really help break up the monotany of level grinding and EG content. If we can at least agree upon this, then its a step in the right direction. If you disagree with me, then I cant understand where you are coming from nor do I want to even try. Until next time SE fans!!! /bow.

[Ruisu]

People sure are setting their hopes high for a game that hasn't even released yet. Kinda like the people who think 2.0 is some sort of miracle patch.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

People sure are setting their hopes high for a game that hasn't even released yet. Kinda like the people who think 2.0 is some sort of miracle patch.

back in my days, ppl keep hope high for FFXIV launch, but get disappointed anymore.