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    Change to the Vote Dismiss System

    When getting rid of disruptive or rude players, it would really help if the vote dismiss system actually ignored votes from premade party members. All the premade parties would never vote to dismiss one of their own members and it makes it a headache to get rid of toxic party members if there happens to be more then one of them.

    Surely, this change could be made to the vote dismiss system so that premades cannot vote?
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    Last edited by ddwarbird; 01-15-2022 at 11:49 AM.

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    Majority wins and if three players want you not to be in a party you will be kicked. The interests of three players are above the interests of one.
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    No, the interest of premades should not be put ahead of the needs to solo players and premades should not have the ability to remove votes to dismiss trolling or toxic behaviour, just because they are premades.
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    This is like saying only "Undecided" voters should be able to go to the polls on election day.
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    My big wish for vote kick comes hand in hand with a fix for the loot rolling system. You can't initiate a vote if people haven't rolled on loot, which means if someone's trolling they can just not roll on loot and four minutes is more than long enough for people to want to start the next encounter, which means more loot, which means kicking an active troll in something like an alliance raid becomes surprisingly hard unless they're actively causing wipes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewslam View Post
    My big wish for vote kick comes hand in hand with a fix for the loot rolling system. You can't initiate a vote if people haven't rolled on loot, which means if someone's trolling they can just not roll on loot and four minutes is more than long enough for people to want to start the next encounter, which means more loot, which means kicking an active troll in something like an alliance raid becomes surprisingly hard unless they're actively causing wipes.
    Yeah, I noticed that as well, so it basically gives a free license to trolls.
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    generally I cant be bothered to kick people, and if you are running into the problem THAT often, it might be a sign of other things.

    I find blacklisting works far better
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddwarbird View Post
    No, the interest of premades should not be put ahead of the needs to solo players and premades should not have the ability to remove votes to dismiss trolling or toxic behaviour, just because they are premades.
    Ok but blocking them from voting while still allowing vote dismiss to function would allow a solo player to unilaterally kick someone in a 3 or 7 man premade, which is... I mean gonna be honest even more silly than being unable to kick that one jerkwad surrounded by enabling friends.
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    There is pro and con to this proposed change.

    Maybe, instead, the game should provide to the person who was kicked the reason given for the kick and then allow them to challenge and report the kick if they feel it's been misused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    There is pro and con to this proposed change.

    Maybe, instead, the game should provide to the person who was kicked the reason given for the kick and then allow them to challenge and report the kick if they feel it's been misused.

    I don't think we need GMs micromanaging votekicks. That's seriously excessive.
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