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    ddwarbird's Avatar
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    Altair Asvana
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    Its a shame Paladins have to be tanks. I understand.

    So I'm experiencing what it is like to be a tank and I have to say to all the tanks out there;

    "I am sorry but you must have the patience of a saint"

    Honestly, it is probably the role that gets the most abuse in the game. If you want to go slower because you are still learning how to tank and interrupt abilities, you get yelled at by DPS.

    If you want to pull one group at a time, you get yelled at...

    Its such a toxic experience, I am not surprised the Roulette wants tanks most of the time.

    I wanted to level a Paladin because they have the coolest armour (In my opinion) but the toxic nature of tanking has REALLY put me off levelling one. The toxicity in this game has made a massive spike since we started getting a huge influx of WoW refugees here. Coincidence...?
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    This applies to all roles.
    Tanxiety is total bollocks.
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    Why would Paladins be anything but tanks? Even their signature skill, "Cover," is clearly designed for the tank role and it has always been that way. So there's no reason why Paladin would ever be anything but a tank.

    As for the rest of your post, I believe the phrase is "Practice makes perfect." You don't need to get stressed out about big pulls because big pulls are fun, and you will see that once you gain more experience tanking. If you have zero intention of ever becoming better as a tank, then I recommend that you play DPS instead and try to avoid high-end content because we don't want lazy DPS in those fights any more than we want lazy tanks in dungeons.
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  4. #4
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    No, that is simply not true. No other role has you babysitting a bunch of children that are constantly whining for you to "go faster" which heavily increases your chances to make mistakes. As a healer main, I have never told my tank to pull more then they feel capable of just to get the dungeon finished a couple minutes faster. It is done, when its done and I wish the DPS had the same maturity.

    This is the problem when we've had an influx of the WoW playerbase (which tends to be younger then the core FFXIV playerbase). Its why this game had such a wonderful community for so much longer as the game appealed to an older, more mature playerbase.
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    Azuri Aeru
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    What is there to learn? Walk in, press AoE, keep one cooldown up. Repeat until everything is dead. It really is that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddwarbird View Post
    No, that is simply not true. No other role has you babysitting a bunch of children that are constantly whining for you to "go faster" which heavily increases your chances to make mistakes. As a healer main, I have never told my tank to pull more then they feel capable of just to get the dungeon finished a couple minutes faster. It is done, when its done and I wish the DPS had the same maturity.

    This is the problem when we've had an influx of the WoW playerbase (which tends to be younger then the core FFXIV playerbase). Its why this game had such a wonderful community for so much longer as the game appealed to an older, more mature playerbase.

    You seem to be confused. Refusing to stick up for yourself and allowing others to completely walk all over you doesn't make you more mature. There is no reason why the DPS's time is worth less than the tanks, so I recommend getting over this idea in your head that only the tank's opinion matters. Dungeon parties are groups of 4, not 1.
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  7. #7
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    Tanking single pulls is boring, and healing single pulls is boring. As long as you cycle through cooldowns, there is no reason to be afraid of wall to wall pulls if not at least 2 packs per pull.
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    There are those who have no patience and for a wipe you can be expelled.

    The best thing to do is to learn and play, facing the fear of what people will say is also important.

    And remember that it is a game, enjoy it too.
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  9. #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    You seem to be confused. Refusing to stick up for yourself and allowing others to completely walk all over you doesn't make you more mature. There is no reason why the DPS's time is worth less than the tanks, so I recommend getting over this idea in your head that only the tank's opinion matters. Dungeon parties are groups of 4, not 1.
    Neither does being a whiney brat and have everything centred around me, me, me. But then the world has been growing gradually more selfish and "look at me" over the last few decades sadly. Sorry but in terms of the game, DPS are expendable and can be easily replaced, healers and tanks not so much but I wonder if you would enjoy waiting 15-20 minutes for a tank depending on the time of day.
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  10. #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddwarbird View Post
    Neither does being a whiney brat and have everything centred around me, me, me. But then the world has been growing gradually more selfish and "look at me" over the last few decades sadly.

    That's ironic coming from the person who thinks dungeon parties should automatically do whatever the heck the tank wants.
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