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    Kansene's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    We did do that creepy smirk thing back to him during the final battle.
    Before fighting him though, at which point he's still in his own body.
    Also unless different races do it differently,only acknowledging him makes you smirk. The other reactions (for me at least) were neutral and angry respectively.

    I agree that he could very possibly still be alive though, the plot armor was generally heavy in ShB/EW.
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    I think Zenos might really be dead, man.

    I know you loved him, but you have to let go...

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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    I think Zenos might really be dead, man.

    I know you loved him, but you have to let go...

    Never...Daddy Zenos FOREVER.

    But...yeah....we dont see him Die. He doesnt fade away, we just left him in literally in the middle of nowhere, he absorbed some power from the mother crystal, and he has the Resonate. He's just laying there exhausted and beaten to an inch of his life. So....just like Elidibus being Trapped into the Crystal Tower...there is potential he will come back and be relevant again. How...thats up to the Writers.

    Im part of the Minority that Loved Zenos and am not against seeing more of him. Just, At the Very least...he needs a REAL conclusion. The way we left him isn't really an END to Zenos. And its not like he said "I feel compete, I got what I wanted, Ill leave you alone now.
    So until we get that Resolution that he either dies, or Promises to leave us alone...we arn't finished with him Narratively.
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    But.....he DID get what he wanted from us. He wanted an all-out one-on-one fight with no distractions, and he got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    But.....he DID get what he wanted from us. He wanted an all-out one-on-one fight with no distractions, and he got it.
    Bringing him back would suck all the gravitas out of that final encounter tbh.
    Kinda like if someone made a big deal out of sacrificing themselves and then you just bring them ba-

    Oh.

    Oh no.
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    He's probably still alive, especially now that he's become an associate of The Scions and helped save the Universe
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    Vivian Rysto
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    He's dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    He's dead.
    ^This. Zenos is finally dead and gone. It's subtle but
    if you watch the scene after the final battle with him (after Zenos and the WoL beat each other up), Zenos's breathing becomes increasingly shallow, and he manages to pant out a final "I....." before cutting out mid sentence. The camera even concentrates on his chest which is subtly rising and falling... before even that stops, showing he's stopped breathing, and then becomes completely motionless from them on. And it wasn't just the injuries the WoL gave him in the battle and their final fitsticuffs either, he was consuming his own life and soul to fight there and even with his Resonant powers, it wasn't infinite, so he was basically just running on fumes by that stage (even after using the last remnants of the Mothercrystal to become Shinryu, I'm sure he was also consuming his own life while in that form as well which would not have helped).

    He even outright stated just before his duel that he was going to completely "burn through the candle of his life" in order to go full-out with the WoL, so he basically consumed his entire aether and life in order to have his last glorious final battle, and with his defeat, even his Resonant power couldn't save him anymore, especially at the edge of the universe where they were, where there was no one to jump his soul to, and so he just... expired. The WoL very nearly suffered the same fate except of course they were saved by a deus ex machina (and a lot of healing from Alphinaud, Urianger and G'raha).


    So yeah, he's dead, gone and left to rot at the edge of creation, forgotten, unloved and unmourned. Good riddance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    . Good riddance.
    Ehh, it could just be that his breathing normalized as he passed into being unconscious. Despite his Enshroud fading, one of his hands and part of his outfit still remained partially transformed.

    I could see it going three ways.

    1. He's dead like you think.

    2. He's not dead, but will have to find a long way home.

    3. He's dead, but the Voidsent now possesses his body ala Reaper Questline antagonist. Next time we see him, he's a Voidsent in Zenos wrappings that is interested in us because it wants to omnomnomnom on our super soul.
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    "I thought that my invincible power would hold the world captive, leaving me in a freedom undisturbed. Thus night and day I worked at the chain with huge fires and cruel hard strokes. When at last the work was done and the links were complete and unbreakable, I found that it held me in its grip." - Rabindranath Tagore

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    Sathona Jun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    Ehh, it could just be that his breathing normalized as he passed into being unconscious. Despite his Enshroud fading, one of his hands and part of his outfit still remained partially transformed.

    I could see it going three ways.

    1. He's dead like you think.

    2. He's not dead, but will have to find a long way home.

    3. He's dead, but the Voidsent now possesses his body ala Reaper Questline antagonist. Next time we see him, he's a Voidsent in Zenos wrappings that is interested in us because it wants to omnomnomnom on our super soul.
    Ever since i did the Reaper storyline im stuck on point 3.
    Also Yoshi P told us to pay attention to his avatar, which avatar didnt do anything special in the cutscenes or fights, so its probably that.
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