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  1. #291
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    There is a difference between reporting players who literally harass you with stuff that affects you directly and stuff that doesn't. Like calling you names, harassing you cause of bad dps in dungeons/trials, sexual harassment and all that is reasonable stuff to report players for.

    What isn't reasonable and connected with being a Karen is going out of your way to hunt down things that don't affect you directly cause you have some sort of superiority complex. Going out of your way to make peoples lifes horrible and harder even though they don't even interact with you, that is indeed being a Karen.

    And speaking of SE stance on this, Yoshi P said in an interview not so long ago that people shouldn't focus on hunting down other people who use mod XYZ or some other tools etc. and instead should focus on enjoying the game. So it's really funny you think SE wants you to hunt down other players like this here is some sort of "the purge" online. Go out and touch some weed and get a bit more relaxed!
    Please read first before responding. On top of that, stop calling people Karens, when you don't know what a Karen is. Enlightenment goes a long way.

    If you don't want to read the thread or gain a basic understanding of things, that's fine, but don't respond not knowing what is even going on.

    I told people in this thread that ERPers should not advertise what they are doing. Other have also done so. If they do, they get suspended. If don't, they don't get suspended. How is that advice problematic for you? You have no ground to stand on, because you don't know what going on.

    YoshiP actually touched about over ERP specifically, and it's mentioned in this thread.
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  2. #292
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    interesting position.

    so, how are gathering bots hurting YOU? as you say, just because you see someone breaking the rules you dont have to report them. seems a touch hypocritical
    That's easy. They harm the ingame economy. It's not mental gymnastics.
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    Last edited by Remish; 01-18-2022 at 07:49 AM.

  3. #293
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    Did you ever read what I typed? It's not a personal thing. It's not angry mob mentality. The ERP ads and carrds, hurt the game, not the ERP itself (unless it is out in the open).
    carrds are not hurting the game, nor is ERP. This sounds like you just have a personal problem with it and want everyone else to feel the same way.
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  4. #294
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    Real roleplay venues and other things listed under Other being drowned out, parenting and rated T games, and potential blocking of FFXIV in certain countries aren't issues?

    Just keep it private, instead of blaming others. Why is that so hard? It's adulting 101.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    carrds are not hurting the game, nor is ERP. This sounds like you just have a personal problem with it and want everyone else to feel the same way.
    Well I don't have any issue with private stuff. Guess you'll have to go back the drawing board on what lie to tell next.
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  5. #295
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remish View Post
    That's easy. They harm the ingame economy. It's not mental gymnastics.
    oh trust me, I know, I am against bots and cheaters, but really.. its a game, a virtual money system, the argument for RP and ERP is its not harming you personally, so neither technically are people using bots. bots dont advertise, in fact, SE has left them alone for so long its a joke. so why even bother reporting something SE clearly doesnt seem to care about?

    the presence of bots will not caused the game to be banned in some countries. ERP and SE doing nothing about it very well could lead to that.

    personally if you need to heavily mod your game (not you personally) so you can wear piercings and ring and modded clothing on modded bodies to improve your ERP experience, go ahead, doesnt bother me in the slightest. want to use parsers, again, whatever floats your boat.

    advertising it... unwise and expect repercussions after SE changed their ToS. thats all there really is to it. doesnt seem very gray area to me... seems pretty cut and dried after their last round of bans for EXACTLY THE SAME BEHAVIOUR
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  6. #296
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    There is a difference between reporting players who literally harass you with stuff that affects you directly and stuff that doesn't. Like calling you names, harassing you cause of bad dps in dungeons/trials, sexual harassment and all that is reasonable stuff to report players for.

    What isn't reasonable and connected with being a Karen is going out of your way to hunt down things that don't affect you directly cause you have some sort of superiority complex. Going out of your way to make peoples lifes horrible and harder even though they don't even interact with you, that is indeed being a Karen.

    And speaking of SE stance on this, Yoshi P said in an interview not so long ago that people shouldn't focus on hunting down other people who use mod XYZ or some other tools etc. and instead should focus on enjoying the game. So it's really funny you think SE wants you to hunt down other players like this here is some sort of "the purge" online. Go out and touch some weed and get a bit more relaxed!
    While you're right on point one, I make it a personal vendetta to report anyone for curses in public chat, etc because this community is straight dumpster fire. 100% passive aggressive and filled with groomers on Discord.
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  7. #297
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuled View Post
    While you're right on point one, I make it a personal vendetta to report anyone for curses in public chat, etc because this community is straight dumpster fire. 100% passive aggressive and filled with groomers on Discord.
    "This community is awful and that's why I'm committed to making it even worse"

    Thanks, I hate it.
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  8. #298
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuled View Post
    While you're right on point one, I make it a personal vendetta to report anyone for curses in public chat, etc because this community is straight dumpster fire. 100% passive aggressive and filled with groomers on Discord.
    Wow. Just... Wow.
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  9. #299
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eriane_Elis View Post
    I'm not into eRP and honestly don't care that it exists. With that said, I have seen people acting like karens in this game. If it's remotely offensive, or might possibly be leaning towards gray area rules -- they will report. It doesn't matter, they feel like it's their obligation to report every little tiny thing like they're a college campus cop feeling superior about their position in society. I'd advise like others here to keep your recruitment on discord. Never talk about fight club outside of fight club or something like that.
    While I agree with most of what you said, I'm not sure you understand what a Karen is.

    Karens are overly entitled and feel they deserve some level of service or goods that they do not. If anything, this is more akin to being a tattle-tail.

    People are not reporting because its some gray zone. It is explicitly against what Yoshida wants in the game and he has been quoted for saying as much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    carrds are not hurting the game, nor is ERP. This sounds like you just have a personal problem with it and want everyone else to feel the same way.
    Doesn't matter if it's "hurting the game" or not. Yoshida has asked people to keep things behind closed doors. Publicly viewable "carrds" are not being kept behind closed doors.

    For me personally, I have kids that play this game and know other kids that play. I trust them to enjoy the game, but if my kids saw a link for a venue/party, and opened it to reveal a 1/2 naked man yeah I would be unhappy.

    --

    I wouldn't blink an eye if suddenly the entire brothel network were insta-banned... but I'm also fine with letting things be- the "Don't talk about fight club" is a good way to do it. As is, we constantly see people complaining "omg I got banned guyz! wtf! so gray zone what I was doing wasn't wrong" when they're clearly against ToS, Yoshida's wishes and have blatant sexual innuendo on their "card" outside of game.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 01-18-2022 at 11:24 AM.

  10. #300
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    rated T games
    Online interactions are not, and never will be, rated by the ESRB.
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    I give up with you people. Forum community is absolutely unhinged. Imagine joining my alt's FC just to wait for me to come online to harass me lmao.

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