Roleplay Party Finder Account Suspensions

[armoroad]

The suspensions prove otherwise. SE doesn't rando ban so easily.



The don't have to do so. From my understanding, they don't want you to connect the dots to the reporting individual. It's not hard to understand why SE doesn't want ERP carrds in their game. If you don't want to have an honest conversation and would instead prefer to misuse terms such as 'scapegoat,' maybe don't continue to respond.

Calling it "an ERP carrd" is disingenuous at best. By this logic, I could be banned for a Tumblr or Twitter link, both of which contain NSFW content. Many discord servers do as well - are we no longer permitted to include a discord link because it might have an NSFW channel?

The carrd's focus was far and away not on the adult part of the venue. Of nine pages on the carrd, only one mentions adult RP, and it's only one of three sections.

[Ranaku]

I mean if it isn't a carrd...there is always the advertisement for 18+ content. Beautiful characters and company we all know what that means and so does SE.

"However, if you encourage or invite a player to participate in such role-play without being certain of their consent, there is a high possibility that you will be reported and penalized. Please be very careful."

Reading rules can help a lot. Cause:

"In the case of role-playing involving mildly sexual expressions (such as erotic role-playing) with a consenting group of two or more players, if it is conducted in a private area, it will not be considered a violation unless a report is made."

A club isn't a private area and if you advertise basically "beautiful company" you violate that rule. Cuz it is not private! Just cause it's your house doesn't mean it's private. GM probably saw "18+" and "Beautiful company" and "Be a mess" and was able to combine the pieces of that puzzle to what it actually means.

[kejakalope]

Calling it "an ERP carrd" is disingenuous at best. By this logic, I could be banned for a Tumblr or Twitter link, both of which contain NSFW content. Many discord servers do as well - are we no longer permitted to include a discord link because it might have an NSFW channel?

The carrd's focus was far and away not on the adult part of the venue. Of nine pages on the carrd, only one mentions adult RP, and it's only one of three sections.

If you post a link into the game which leads to adult content then yes, you are absolutely at serious risk of getting your account hit if a GM sees it.

[armoroad]

I mean if it isn't a carrd...there is always the advertisement for 18+ content. Beautiful characters and company we all know what that means and so does SE.

"However, if you encourage or invite a player to participate in such role-play without being certain of their consent, there is a high possibility that you will be reported and penalized. Please be very careful."

Reading rules can help a lot. Cause:

"In the case of role-playing involving mildly sexual expressions (such as erotic role-playing) with a consenting group of two or more players, if it is conducted in a private area, it will not be considered a violation unless a report is made."

A club isn't a private area and if you advertise basically "beautiful company" you violate that rule. Cuz it is not private! Just cause it's your house doesn't mean it's private. GM probably saw "18+" and "Beautiful company" and "Be a mess" and was able to combine the pieces of that puzzle to what it actually means.

Sir, the ERP is in locked personal chambers in the FC house. It's private.

[Zsolen]

Calling it "an ERP carrd" is disingenuous at best. By this logic, I could be banned for a Tumblr or Twitter link, both of which contain NSFW content. Many discord servers do as well - are we no longer permitted to include a discord link because it might have an NSFW channel?

The carrd's focus was far and away not on the adult part of the venue. Of nine pages on the carrd, only one mentions adult RP, and it's only one of three sections.

Ah yes more words used to create a false narrative. Let's call something 'disingenous.' That will work.

If SE can link something to your in game character that is NSFW, you are putting yourself in a bad position. I don't report people over this stuff, myself, but people will do it. I would much rather people act more responsibly, on their own accord. If the NSFW channela in the Discord require certain permissions, you might be good. I wouldn't know.

Comments like "banning all the brothels is better off" and similar comments are not helpful, nor are the comments equating that 18+ = sexual implications/ERP. I have no beef with people suggesting that the ERP in the carrd is the problem and suggesting removing it, even though I think that is still missing the point.

At no point have I made an assumption about you specifically.

But you did. I want honest convos. You said you will have it when people admit they are anti-RP. Why would that be your response to me, if I was never your intended target.

Also not missing the point. OP knows what they did. SE being vague is an old thing everyone knows about. It's been talked about often. I doubt SE would even consider changing that policy.

[kejakalope]

Sir, the ERP is in locked personal chambers in the FC house. It's private.

It was private until a GM came snooping around after receiving a report, and discovered gil was being exchanged for ERP, which is absolutely explicitly not allowed as per the words out of Yoshi-P's own mouth. GMs can access locked rooms and read the logs of everything that happened in them.

[Ranaku]

Sir, the ERP is in locked personal chambers in the FC house. It's private.

YES! And still you advertised it publicly. Who knows how the venue at the end looks? The GM doesn't. If you write "FAT BOOBAS COME NOW TO XYZ" into the PF and then you sell them in private darkrooms so nobody can see that they are actually Hrothgar, the GM doesn't know that. They see what you advertise and that is enough. 18+ + obvious escort/brothel advertisement is enough to get you into Gaol.

Cause what they know is that the venue you can go to is publicly available, i mean lol you posted the adress in PF. And you promised a bunch of naughty 18+ things. You think the GM visits the venue and makes a background check on all the stuff that is going on there?

[GaleMex]

But you did. I want honest convos. You said you will have it when people admit they are anti-RP. Why would that be your response to me, if I was never your intended target.

Also not missing the point. OP knows what they did. SE being vague is an old thing everyone knows about. It's been talked about often. I doubt SE would even consider changing that policy.

That was not pointed at you, specifically, but I will admit that I may have been overly general and rude and understand that you felt targeted. Apologies.

In the interest of being honest, to me, the point of this thread was genuinely never about ERP or carrds. The point was SE's vague language leading to discourse about what specifically is the issue here, resulting in confusion and then later multiple inferences made on something as vaguely defined as "inappropriate".

This is tangential, but something else that really odds me out is that multiple people have been issued 3 day suspensions when that isn't even the lowest tier of punishment. I've personally known people who did things like exploit the Ungarmax bug back in Stormblood when Squadrons were introduced and they only received a 1 day suspension. If the accounts have no prior warnings or strikes, why was the punishment ramped up so quickly?

[Zsolen]

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Apology accepted.

My point to you before is that the OP knew and was relying upon SE's policy of being vague to gain sympathy. They knew they had something NSFW out there. They had the real reason. It wasn't because of normal RP ads were targeted by a GM. SE's policy itself has been talked about often on these forums.

I have never heard anyone that used Ungarmax only get one day.

SE on their suspensions:

◆ Temporary Service Account Suspension
"Temporary Service Account Suspension" is a penalty issued when a serious violation is confirmed. When a Temporary Service Account Suspension penalty is issued, the user will not be able to play Final Fantasy XIV during the applicable suspension period.

There are three types of Temporary Service Account Suspension: 3 Days, 10 Days, and 20 Days. The duration of the suspension period is determined according to the severity of the violation, combined with the player's record of past violations. Even if a Caution or Warning was not issued in respect of past behavior, a temporary suspension may be imposed depending on the nature of the violation.

[Floortank]

People ought to read the "Prohibited Activities" definition of ERP.

It does not match the actual reality of what ERP is.

SE cannot condone something in its guidelines that would put their ESRB at risk.