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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Didn’t we just go over not baying for developer’s heads when we disagree with them?
    The developers have spoken on this topic and given good explanations and guidance which I believe the player base supported almost universally. I absolutely agree with the developers on this topic, and was quite happy with the clarifications they gave as part of the announcement in October. However, developers and GMs are not the same people. This GM is operating in direct contradiction to the developers' guidance, and that needs to be addressed in one way or another.
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    Elara Almasombria
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    I have to say it will be extremely interesting to see a full disclosure of all of this, will never happen of course but still...
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    Last edited by Driavna; 01-15-2022 at 08:33 AM.

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    This GM is doing good work. Keep on booting them where it hurts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    This GM is doing good work. Keep on booting them where it hurts.
    Oh, hey, bait
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    You can be suspended for cussing. A friend said the D word and got a 3 day suspension. Never seen an mmo with such a strict cussing policy.
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    Wise men speak because the have something to say, fools because they have to say something. - Plato - He saw the ff forums apparently.

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    Sturm Churro
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    It doesn't seem like it's the advertisements themselves necessarily. It looks like they check what actually goes on in particular venues, but having "18+" definitely isn't a good look. Advertising these sorts of venues in PF is a big no no.
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    Momomi Urabito
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    Mhm, best to link to the basics, if to anything a discord, as discord has very strong rules about nsfw. Carrd is up to the user and there are no disclaimers that you have to agree to about being 18 or older. There are spam rules as well, so be careful about how many times these clubs are being advertised, I have seen a club have 6 or more ads up at once. That could be ruled as spam, and thereby something that could warrant discipline.
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    Thea Sitori
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    It doesn't seem like it's the advertisements themselves necessarily. It looks like they check what actually goes on in particular venues, but having "18+" definitely isn't a good look. Advertising these sorts of venues in PF is a big no no.
    Yep, it's amazing many assume GMs aren't players of the game themselves, a good amount are are. They have invisible mode and check things out on their own or to investigate a report. Nonetheless like we all been saying, people put themselves at substantial risk advertising 18+ content in the game freely to everyone in the data center. This isn't a linkshell or a band of RP friends.
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    Ambrosius Horace
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    It doesn't seem like it's the advertisements themselves necessarily. It looks like they check what actually goes on in particular venues, but having "18+" definitely isn't a good look. Advertising these sorts of venues in PF is a big no no.
    If that's the case, are we not allowed to swear in our own FC house if the door is open? That's the worst of what goes on in our establishment, as we follow the rules for NO ERP in public. If they are investigating the inner workings and people are swearing, then is that the issue, or selling 'pixel' drinks as someone so lightly put it. Or is it linking the carrd, because if it's -that- then other people need to be aware of it, because I doubt the thousand some people who have something suggestive in their personal and venue carrds had no idea it was against the rules. Clarification is needed to prevent people from breaking the rules. How can we follow what isn't laid out clearly?
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by milkhorn View Post
    If that's the case, are we not allowed to swear in our own FC house if the door is open? That's the worst of what goes on in our establishment, as we follow the rules for NO ERP in public. If they are investigating the inner workings and people are swearing, then is that the issue, or selling 'pixel' drinks as someone so lightly put it. Or is it linking the carrd, because if it's -that- then other people need to be aware of it, because I doubt the thousand some people who have something suggestive in their personal and venue carrds had no idea it was against the rules. Clarification is needed to prevent people from breaking the rules. How can we follow what isn't laid out clearly?
    Speaking again from the original occurrence of this:

    - Carrds can be used as evidence in cases like this if they are provided by the PF advertiser themselves. They won't take it as evidence otherwise.

    - Swearing and providing brothel services are not the same thing, not sure why that's being debated. But if we wanna split hairs here, yeah you can get reported for using foul language in general. Speaking as someone who has had personal experience with that.

    - Bar/Pub/Lounge settings are not the issue, what they specifically latch onto is advertising as 18+ and providing public proof of ERP services when reviewing reports.

    So again, in regards to PF advertisements, drop the 18+ tags and drop the carrds that publicly display that you're offering brothel services unless you are fine with potentially encountering problems because of it. Some people out there are very intent on removing the nightlife scene from the game entirely and use that as a way to do it.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 01-16-2022 at 03:34 AM.

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