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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Here is what you don't understand. FFXIV's rating supercedes your personal 18+ rating.

    The ESRB rating is Teen. The description associated with that rating, as described on the ESRB site itself includes:

    Blood
    Language
    Sexual Themes
    Use of Alcohol
    Violence

    The game is not rated E10+ or E, which are the appropriate ratings for Children.

    The Japanese rating is "Cero C", which is 15+.

    The general European rating is "PEGI 16", which is 16+.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    The ESRB rating is Teen. The description associated with that rating, as described on the ESRB site itself includes:

    Blood
    Language
    Sexual Themes
    Use of Alcohol
    Violence

    The game is not rated E10+ or E, which are the appropriate ratings for Children.

    The Japanese rating is "Cero C", which is 15+.

    The general European rating is "PEGI 16", which is 16+.
    https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...&la=1&ret=rule

    "Please note that Square Enix may issue a penalty at its discretion even if a report has not been filed but the act was found being conducted in public areas such as Say and Shout, search comments, Party Finder, on online video/streaming services, if the behavior is found to violate real world laws, or if it may be considered a problem based on the game's entertainment board ratings."

    People like to say well ESRB doesn't cover online interactions, that is to a certain extent, like chat rooms. But performing acts using FFXIV assets like your character and content such as screenshots and streaming is still under SE's copyright and purview with ratings and local laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    People like to say well ESRB doesn't cover online interactions, that is to a certain extent, like chat rooms. But performing acts using FFXIV assets like your character and content such as screenshots and streaming is still under SE's copyright and purview with ratings and local laws.
    How is an "18+" in a Party Finder announcement "performing acts using FFXIV assets"? It takes a pretty interesting mindset to equate the two, since the game only allows chat for interpersonal interactions.
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    Oh yeah...your carrd is a bit explicit for the ToS, hence the disciplinary measures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by melafyre View Post
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    It should really be noted that this is the same GM who has gone on to issue 'violations' on accounts that have advertised on the PF for roleplay venues (even including those of all-ages), just because he seemed to not like it.
    This has far less to do with what the PF said and far more to do with a certain someone being judge, jury and executioner as well as heavy-handed about what they deem a violation, even when it violates nothing that the TOS says. SE needs to look into this individual. It always seems to be him.
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    OP I think people that went your venue wrongfully ratted your friends out. SE doesn't hand out bans willy nilly like that.. Even if there was no profanity, etc, it's up to GM to determine whether or not the content spoken breeches the TOS.

    Ok so having read the thread so more, it appears they just stop at the PF slogans and toss bans if it they feel it breeches the TOS x_x. The actual venue taking place doesn't matter.
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    Last edited by Quintessa; 01-15-2022 at 03:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quintessa View Post
    OP I think people that went your venue wrongfully ratted your friends out. SE doesn't hand out bans willy nilly like that.. Even if there was no profanity, etc, it's up to GM to determine whether or not the content spoken breeches the TOS.
    It definitely smells fishy regardless of people inserting their personal opinions on venues with adult themes. Our PF was not against TOS which is entirely the point of my post that got derailed into speculation and needless attempts at clapbacks. The point is, my friends are on suspension for something that they were given no warning for, and it was not just our venue being advertised that got hit. I understand that us listing 18+ can be 'interpreted' as something controversial, but we see as well from melafyre, who was hit with the same punishment from a completely 'acceptable' venue. Where is the disconnect from GM to players, when we have been over the TOS several times. Square - tell us what we did wrong, and why the punishments would be so severe on first offenses. It doesn't make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milkhorn View Post
    It definitely smells fishy regardless of people inserting their personal opinions on venues with adult themes. Our PF was not against TOS which is entirely the point of my post that got derailed into speculation and needless attempts at clapbacks. The point is, my friends are on suspension for something that they were given no warning for, and it was not just our venue being advertised that got hit. I understand that us listing 18+ can be 'interpreted' as something controversial, but we see as well from melafyre, who was hit with the same punishment from a completely 'acceptable' venue. Where is the disconnect from GM to players, when we have been over the TOS several times. Square - tell us what we did wrong, and why the punishments would be so severe on first offenses. It doesn't make sense.
    ERP privately arranged between consenting adults is fine. That has been made clear by GMs in the past.

    ERP being publicly advertised in Party Finder is not. That was made clear with the ToS clarification.

    If your carrd info included in your PF listing is explicitly stating ERP activities, you are publicly advertising ERP since those curious have to visit your carrd to get the full description.

    I think that's the distinction you're failing to grasp.

    Involving a third party site for in game activities is no longer protection. They reserve the right to take game related content posted on third party sites into consideration when making account action decisions.
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    Could be someone from MPK group. They did have a hard on against any rp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzillaxpowerrangers View Post
    Could be someone from MPK group. They did have a hard on against any rp.
    Luckily with the new All Saints Wake event, they can finally dress like they act.
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