Roleplay Party Finder Account Suspensions

[milkhorn]

As of this morning, two of my friends that I run a roleplay venue with have had their accounts suspended for '3.3 Profanity/Offensive Language' after hosting a party finder to advertise said venue last night on 01.13.22. Our party finders read as followed:

"[RP18+] Fights, drinking, beautiful company & character! Be a mess at [VENUE]! Open now!| [HOUSING PLOT/WARD] | [VENUE NAME]"

There is no use of profanity or offensive language in our party finder, and feel that the bans have been unjust. To have a suspension on their accounts for 3 days (see attached image) without prior warnings or anything on BOTH of their accounts is absolutely ridiculous. Especially if there is no other explanation given as to why the suspension was put on other than to 'read the TOS'.



Through our contacts and general know of other venues, there have been SEVERAL people facing the same consequences that were all hosting party finder during the same time. If this can be investigated, it would very much be appreciated.

I urge anyone else who knows of other players who face similar consequences to post on this thread so we can collect as much information as possible as to why the suspensions happened.

And to also point out, this is very reminisce of the same issue that roleplay venue owners had last year via thread:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...cement-by-GM-s

EDIT: INSERT FROM TOS

"3. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES
In addition to the License Limitations, there are other activities that you are forbidden from doing in connection with the Game ("Prohibited Activities"). In its discretion, Square Enix may use a variety of methods to deal with violations of this User Agreement and the Prohibited Activities, including, but not limited to, any of the following:

Issuing a warning;
Placing a character in a "virtual jail" for a specified period of time;
Removing or deleting ill-gotten in-game items or currency;
Temporarily suspending an account;
Permanently terminating an account;
Permanently banning your IP address, residential address, or credit card number;
Asserting a lawsuit for breach of contract, copyright infringement, or other cause of action as may be applicable; and/or
Seeking injunctive relief in any court or jurisdiction to prevent you from continuing such activity.
In addition, Square Enix shall be entitled to terminate any FFXIV Service Account (immediately and without notice) of any User who (1) was previously suspended or terminated by Square Enix and who Square Enix believes (in its sole discretion) re-registered using different registration information in order to circumvent or bypass such suspension or termination, or (2) Square Enix believes (in its sole discretion, based upon any information available, including registration and account information) that such User is enabling or assisting another User to conduct any Prohibited Activities of any kind."

An immediate 3 day suspension should not be the first step for first offenders, and in doing so it garnishes a whole world of confusion and pain to those who have not done anything wrong. It is unacceptable.

[Reinha]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...aign=na_topics

[KageTokage]

I'm curious as to what the venue's name was.

[milkhorn]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...aign=na_topics

Referencing the link above,

The "Other" category is intended for recruiting players to participate in content that is not listed in the listed categories. However, as an exception, the "Other" category may be used for the sake of recruiting members to form a community, or conduct exchanges between players. Examples of these include:

- Promoting player events
- Housing-related promotions
- Advertising for the purchase and sale of items
- Recruitment of members for community groups such as Linkshells and Free Companies

Player events are included in the OTHER category, which we had our party finder listed in.

I'm curious as to what the venue's name was.

Also re: our venue name is SCRAPYARD.

[RobynDaBank]

Ah yes, 18+...

[milkhorn]

Ah yes, 18+...

18+ is put in place as it is a bar venue, where as we know, people under the age of 18 (or 21 for that matter) are not allowed.

[Reinha]

Square wants you to welcome kids to your venue. It's not a crime to sell pixel drinks to minors.

[AllieKitz]

These sort of reports have been happening for a while to a lot of RP Venues, 18+ and not, regardless of weather or not any rules were broken.

People shouldn't be allowed to go on an angry reporting spree and get people suspended or in trouble cause they...I dunno don't like RP in their RPG?

[AllieKitz]

Square wants you to welcome kids to your venue. It's not a crime to sell pixel drinks to minors.

Maybe venues have reasons to prefer moderately mature people in their RP Venue, there's thousands of 18+ FCs, groups, communities etc. and there's no rules saying that kids need to be included in everything. Maybe someone wants to do some more dark or mature RP themes without little Timmy running to mother.

[HEXWOLF]

Surely advertising a bar RP venue as 18+ is the responsible thing to do, rather than allow minors to wander in with no warning. The updated ToS very clearly state any 'vulgarity' or 'profanity' or adult roleplay is entirely acceptable so long as consent is given, so in this case RP venues making their atmosphere clear from the outset are working to establish that necessary consent. Punishing people for being responsible adults communicating the nature of their venues clearly seems ridiculous to me & I hope these suspensions are overturned.

Also last I checked '18+' is an advised age restriction, not a profanity.