Please enable data centre travel between regions

[Remolia]

Although I would understand if the MB was disabled for region visitors.

Its not, u can direct trade with players and use market.

Party Finder and Duty Finder would probably be unaffected.

Some times I back home at 3am and cant find any activity ingame.

The lag would be terrible

Its not

[Zomba13]

I also really would like cross region/physical data center travel. I started playing in 1.0 on Sargatanas from the UK because the EU and NA servers were in the same physical location (thus same latency) and I wanted to play with people on a forum I was a part of. Eventually come ARR the same forum had an influx of new comers who started on Ultros again as a primarily American forum with no "offical" EU FC set up due to the servers being in the same place it wouldn't matter anyway. So I transferred from Sarg to Ultros and have been there ever since. When the servers were moved further away from the UK I stayed, when the EU servers were moved to Europe I stayed as I enjoyed playing with the FC and didn't want to move somewhere where I wouldn't know anyone to play with and have to start over again with a fresh FC and new people.

Eventually my real life friends started playing, one played in secret for a long time on Playstation and I eventually convinced them to join me on Ultros moving from an EU server as they just played alone. Eventually two more real life friends also finally started playing and again joined Ultros so we could all play together, I could keep my leveled up jobs, amassed mount and minion collection, house etc and as they never knew the EU latency they wouldn't complain about it as it's honestly not that bad. I previously made an EU character to play with some friends of friends who started on EU servers to play with their real life friends I didn't know and I casually did the story with them so while the latency was noticeably better, it wasn't good enough for me to abandon my character or move from Ultros.

With the new servers being added my friends asked about moving to Phantom and I said I wasn't as I already had my house and the FC I'm in and they stayed and eventually got a Small house after trying for a while (and flubbing the initial Ishgard housing by putting a bid in on a popular Small plot instead of one of the many left with 0 actual bids). Then the first friend that joined me decided to move to Phantom without telling us because he was sick of the latency and lag and then the two others followed him so now I can't play with them. I moved my lvl 50 character that I did the casual ARR playthrough with over to Phantom but I seriously don't want to do the story and level up everything again (or pay the money for the expensive skips) and I don't want to move my main character from Ultros and lose my home I finally got set up how I like and all my FC mates so now we just don't play together any more.

If we could move cross region this wouldn't be an issue. I could log on and transfer over to play with them when they want to run WT or the latest story dungeon/trial they've reached and I wouldn't lose access to Ultros. It's just really depressed me getting abandoned like that and then given the choice between playing with friends or abandoning almost 10 years with the same FC players and server.

[Neoyoshi]

My biggest fear, and probably a good reason to never allow cross-region play -ever; is the cultural/language differences could upset the natural order of the communities within; for example- I firmly believe a large portion of people would just go directly to the JP region and that.... well, i don't think that would go over well. (and thats putting it mildly)

EDIT: The only realistic way i see cross-region play being even remotely allowed, is that ALL chat functionality would have to be disabled, including the emote system for players visiting said region. Why? Because some people just cannot behave themselves.

[Remolia]

My biggest fear, and probably a good reason to never allow cross-region play -ever; is the cultural/language differences could upset the natural order of the communities within; for example- I firmly believe a large portion of people would just go directly to the JP region and that.... well, i don't think that would go over well. (and thats putting it mildly)

EDIT: The only realistic way i see cross-region play being even remotely allowed, is that ALL chat functionality would have to be disabled, including the emote system for players visiting said region. Why? Because some people just cannot behave themselves.

U can create a character on any datacenter right now, what stops me now? I can even do a transfer.
How many people use data center hops right now?
There is TOS for players, who cant behave.

[Illmaeran]

U can create a character on any datacenter right now, what stops me now? I can even do a transfer.
How many people use data center hops right now?
There is TOS for players, who cant behave.

Nothing but time invested in a main is stopping anyone from making a character on any open server.

I routinely see people from former Elemental servers back over there to do things with groups they used to play with. It does happen and is helpful for people who couldn't leave a server that was getting moved to a new DC.

There is a TOS, yes, but let's be honest here, it's not well enforced. Ever since Materia was declared Dead On Arrival, my friends and I have been noticing an increasing number of people doing things "The NA Way" in town and in duties. I've been on Elemental since May, 2014 and have only seen this sort of behavior recently. It wasn't a thing until mid-Shadowbringers. Although anecdotal, the observations are frequent enough to steer me in the direction of believing they're former NA/EU players who went to OCE then transferred to Elemental.

The people exhibiting those behaviors are disruptive and have started to erode the positive relationship non-Japanese players had with the Japanese community. It took us years to build and effort to maintain, and now people who were originally playing somewhere else and came here for reasons only the Twelve know, are ruining it. Full disclosure, I live in the US and my FC was founded by people in the US to serve expats in Japan and those who wanted to get away from NA servers. I know exactly what an NA-based FC and general English-language community can be like on Elemental and it's no longer what it was.


Give NA/EU/OCE cross-region travel between themselves, but leave Japan out of it.

[Remolia]

but leave Japan out of it.

Lets be honest, on this point, I think u are scared of JP players, that they may come and visit u on ur server. jk.

I been in Japan few times, I talked to real people there, I played with these people too (other games + discord), totally normal people for me.
I cant get it, why do u need to isolate one people from other in year 2022.
Thinking that way, we should also "isolate" people who speak only their native lang, but that already sounds weird, and its also cause troubles in global and future.
Coz why someone have to decide with which people I am allowed to interact to.

And since u already can transfer between datacenters, and create characters there with any account. I dont see a problem to allow temporary hopping between these datacenters.

For people, who miss behave we have TOS, coz they can/will miss behave everywhere, and it have nothing to du with datacenter hops.

[Tigerlilley]

Lets be honest, on this point, I think u are scared of JP players, that they may come and visit u on ur server. jk.
I been in Japan few times, I talked to real people there, I played with these people too (other games + discord), totally normal people for me.
I cant get it, why do u need to isolate one people from other in year 2022.
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The reason we don't have region travel is because the Japanese gave feedback that they don't want it, as explained by YoshiP. This thread is saying fine, we respect that but let the rest of us region visit, ESPECIALLY those on lonely island OCE. Japan doesn't need to be included if they don't want to be.

[VelKallor]

Ever since Materia was declared Dead On Arrival

Not by a long shot, mate. Sorry to burst your bubble, but we are growing nicely. Then again, we all know that NA kicked and screamed when OCE servers were announced, demanding that they be handed over to NA instead.

What made me laugh the hardest was this immortal two faced contradiction.

NA: "200 ms is unplayable" and then, what did we hear when OCE servers were announced?

NA "They dont need their own servers... they can play at 300 ms, its perfectly fine, give them to us"

I find it somewhat interesting that this was the VERY SAME facetious argument used when we got OCE servers in WOW.

History repeats itself...its fine for everyone else to have bad latency and bad gameplay...just not you.

Materia sends their regards , we are busy , happy, and growing, we are here to stay. Ran into the members of two entire FCs that left Elemental and are now on Ravana, lots of hugs and happy faces in Limsa when i zoned in......they missed me, awwwwww....*blush*

Although anecdotal, the observations are frequent enough to steer me in the direction of believing they're former NA/EU players who went to OCE then transferred to Elemental.

Just the opposite.

Materia, actually is in fact seeing a constant stream of sprouts and seasoned players FROM Elemental and NA servers to play on OCE. In all truth I am delighted, as this is a wonderful chance to brush up on my Japanese.

[HollowedDoll]

My biggest fear, and probably a good reason to never allow cross-region play -ever; is the cultural/language differences could upset the natural order of the communities within; for example- I firmly believe a large portion of people would just go directly to the JP region and that.... well, i don't think that would go over well. (and thats putting it mildly)

EDIT: The only realistic way i see cross-region play being even remotely allowed, is that ALL chat functionality would have to be disabled, including the emote system for players visiting said region. Why? Because some people just cannot behave themselves.

Your dreaded weebs will go to JP servers as is, the majority of us have 0 interest playing on a server where we can't understand what people are saying.

[Larirawiel]

I firmly believe a large portion of people would just go directly to the JP region and that.... well, i don't think that would go over well. (and thats putting it mildly)

I guess, the biggest JP fans are already on Tonberry. And it should be easy to block the JP datacenters for travelers.



Cheers