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    Connor Whelan
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    Ranged DPS are currently stuck in a hellish limbo where they’re in a perpetual state of imbalance.

    Either their support is ‘too strong’ and devs start to act like their whole job has to suck by necessity (Dancer), their dps is ‘too strong’ and they get no support at all (Machinist), or they’re over-tuned and have excellent dps and party support (Bard, at least in regard to rDPS. Their utility sucks lol). Then the devs just play musical chairs with those three spots every expansion.

    It’s very clear to most players that the ranged DPS role as a whole is in serious need of an rework, just like healers (and arguably tanks but I know less about them). Their current design philosophy for physical ranged is like they’re throwing darts a board that has a picture of the ranged job icons. Whichever icon the dart lands on gets to be the ‘strong’ one for the next expansion. And it’s benefitting nobody; not even the ones being made ‘strong’.

    As I mentioned in my previous post, Bard has very high dps / rDPS since it seems the dart landed on them for Endwalker. But that doesn’t mean it was just washed clean of the faults it had before, if anything they’ve just been exacerbated or replaced with new ones. Though, because Bards get to be the ‘strong’ ones, the devs will pretend we don’t exist the whole expansion and it won’t matter next expansion because we’ll get yet another rework lol, probably reinstating DoTs as the primary Bard focus…then removing all of its support capabilities because ‘it has more dps now’ lol
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Ranged DPS are currently stuck in a hellish limbo where they’re in a perpetual state of imbalance.

    Either their support is ‘too strong’ and devs start to act like their whole job has to suck by necessity (Dancer), their dps is ‘too strong’ and they get no support at all (Machinist), or they’re over-tuned and have excellent dps and party support (Bard, at least in regard to rDPS. Their utility sucks lol). Then the devs just play musical chairs with those three spots every expansion.

    It’s very clear to most players that the ranged DPS role as a whole is in serious need of an rework, just like healers (and arguably tanks but I know less about them). Their current design philosophy for physical ranged is like they’re throwing darts a board that has a picture of the ranged job icons. Whichever icon the dart lands on gets to be the ‘strong’ one for the next expansion. And it’s benefitting nobody; not even the ones being made ‘strong’.

    As I mentioned in my previous post, Bard has very high dps / rDPS since it seems the dart landed on them for Endwalker. But that doesn’t mean it was just washed clean of the faults it had before, if anything they’ve just been exacerbated or replaced with new ones. Though, because Bards get to be the ‘strong’ ones, the devs will pretend we don’t exist the whole expansion and it won’t matter next expansion because we’ll get yet another rework lol, probably reinstating DoTs as the primary Bard focus…then removing all of its support capabilities because ‘it has more dps now’ lol
    I feel like you're about 90% there.

    MCH has a niche and it seems a bit undertuned right now, but I don't think it's in need of rework-level changes. Selfish DPS is its thing within the role, given just a sliiiight boost I think it'd be fine.

    Now BRD and DNC are the real problem. Because they're both essentially the same thing. So either BRD is a worse DNC, or DNC is a worse BRD.

    If SE significantly buffs DNC in 6.08 then all it will do is flip exactly that: DNC becomes the better BRD instead of the worse BRD. But one way or another, neither has a distinct identity so tweaking potencies won't really solve anything other than to make those who prefer the other one happier (but at a zero sum cost to those that prefer whichever is currently better).
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