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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    I'd like to see the player character move away from being the 'Warrior of Light' and go back to being an adventurer. I'd like a return to more grounded threats as well - at least for a while.

    More lasting consequences for the protagonists and less fake deaths would be wonderful, too. I would also quite like to see more of the established nuance in the story embraced.

    If, for example, we go to the Void then having our character wield darkness rather than light in a MSQ cutscene would be pretty neat. Between Reaper and Dark Knight there's less and less excuse to hide such things away in job quests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'd like to see the player character move away from being the 'Warrior of Light' and go back to being an adventurer. I'd like a return to more grounded threats as well - at least for a while.

    More lasting consequences for the protagonists and less fake deaths would be wonderful, too. I would also quite like to see more of the established nuance in the story embraced.

    If, for example, we go to the Void then having our character wield darkness rather than light in a MSQ cutscene would be pretty neat. Between Reaper and Dark Knight there's less and less excuse to hide such things away in job quests.
    Final cutscene of EW basically says we are adventurers again. No godly magic or mystic other worldly voodoo to keep us safe.
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    I’d like to break away from the scions and do my own thing. But honestly, I think I just have to accept that all the things I want are not going to happen so I’m in the process of researching other games where character choices matter - which would pretty much exclude mmorpgs. Also looking into D&D.

    I think finishing the current story has left me in a good spot to end my adventures in Eorzea. I’ll definitely peek in on steamers every now and then to see what direction the game goes in. I’ve noticed that I prefer watching others play this game than playing it myself now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    That's true. EW is a mixed bag with highs and lows and my post was an exaggeration. But it still pains me that this is how "the saga" concludes with such a disconnect between what came before and how it ends. The lore being trampled over, the characters taking so many stupid pills, the whole final zone. At times I prefer to believe that the story ended in 5.3, that with no more unsundered ascians we no longer have to fear any more rejoinings, Zodiark keeps doing its thing, the galaxy is at peace. The end. Even the final cutscene with the returned scions at Revenant's Toll could have been a fitting conclussion.

    More seriously, for the future I also think they should keep things more grounded. In my opinion FF14's story shines the most when it focuses on the people, the relationships they keep, how they find a way to overcome their struggles, how THEY fit within the lore, etc. The things that made Eorzea feel like a living world. And when the lore keeps more grounded too and focuses on "things working". Please no more "mysterious energy sources that encompass all of creation but that we didn't know about in all these years". PLEASE NO MORE TIME SHENANIGANS. The FF14 universe with the "rules" that already exist has plenty of avenues for telling stories. Please remain focused on those and don't try to force new rules if they don't fit with what we already have.
    Sounds like you want another stormblood, which was arguably the worst expansion story wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RatKing View Post
    Sounds like you want another stormblood, which was arguably the worst expansion story wise.
    I know a lot of people hate Stormblood but I love it. Of the few complains I have about it the biggest is how they shoved in the primals forcefully despite them not fitting with the narrative at the moments they appeared.
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    Naoki Yoshida:
    ...Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
    Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554 at 1:14:22

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatKing View Post
    Sounds like you want another stormblood, which was arguably the worst expansion story wise.
    It is not. I like EW way more than SB. SB has its own problems which are very different to the problems EW has. But yes, EW felt very surreal und not very logical to me in the end.

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    And i have found some errors which can easily happen when you start with time traveling. They should not do that.



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    Last edited by Larirawiel; 01-14-2022 at 09:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatKing View Post
    Sounds like you want another stormblood, which was arguably the worst expansion story wise.
    I'm gonna disagree with this. Stormblood didn't really have me questioning the story as much as Endwalker did.
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    I'm kind of hoping that Elpis doesn't get involved in the 6.x MSQ anymore, because as much as I'd like to learn more about certain specifics of the Ancient era, I feel like they could've just as easily had us stumble across more locales akin to Akademia Aynder that managed to survive through the eons, especially given the mention of how abnormally durable their architecture was compared to what we're used to.

    The storytelling becoming overly reliant on time travel and weird causal loops is...not a direction I want things to go in.

    On a more positive note, I'd like if the 6.x MSQ mostly focuses on us going on little misadventures with each of the Scions; possibly laying low more stray blasphemies that are a bit too wily or dangerous for the alliance to deal with. I feel like things are going to blow up in the .3 patch again, though, but rather then it serving as the climax of the current storyline it's going to mark the appearance of a new threat that's big enough to warrant a trial and kicks off the bulk of the build-up to 7.x.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'm kind of hoping that Elpis doesn't get involved in the 6.x MSQ anymore, because as much as I'd like to learn more about certain specifics of the Ancient era, I feel like they could've just as easily had us stumble across more locales akin to Akademia Aynder that managed to survive through the eons, especially given the mention of how abnormally durable their architecture was compared to what we're used to.

    The storytelling becoming overly reliant on time travel and weird causal loops is...not a direction I want things to go in.

    On a more positive note, I'd like if the 6.x MSQ mostly focuses on us going on little misadventures with each of the Scions; possibly laying low more stray blasphemies that are a bit too wily or dangerous for the alliance to deal with. I feel like things are going to blow up in the .3 patch again, though, but rather then it serving as the climax of the current storyline it's going to mark the appearance of a new threat that's big enough to warrant a trial and kicks off the bulk of the build-up to 7.x.
    Much as I enjoy the ancients, I also loathe time travel and this expansion has intensified that, so I somewhat agree. I wouldn't say no to an ancient AU if they did it well, but they can figure out other methods too, I am sure, like making greater use of the Echo, historical archives etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    HW writer is still busy with 16. Since Yoshida claimed 16 is already done and only need polish, I hope the writer will come back to 14 for future patches. As much as I appreciate Ishikawa, idk if I want more of her style of writing. Or maybe have matsuno as the writer lol (yeah i know it's next to impossible).
    Yeah, hoping for the same here.
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    I would like to see them pump out more MSQ more often. The world is pretty big now, and if we can make use of the existing world for more story, which would save a lot of time, then we should do that.
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