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    fallynnknivez's Avatar
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    Fal'lynn Knivez
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 90

    DRK Fix Salted Earth Please

    I know there are lots of issues with DRK atm, and they are all valid, but what i'm not seeing are posts about salted earth.

    Making it appear at your feet was a bad change, added nothing to the class, and was pointless (if you were going to do that, just turn it into an AoE DoT and be done with it). Please change it back to a targeted ability, thank you.
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    While they're at it, they should make Salt and Darkness also teleport you into the center of Salted Earth from within a range of 20y or so.
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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by fallynnknivez View Post
    I know there are lots of issues with DRK atm, and they are all valid, but what i'm not seeing are posts about salted earth.

    Making it appear at your feet was a bad change, added nothing to the class, and was pointless (if you were going to do that, just turn it into an AoE DoT and be done with it). Please change it back to a targeted ability, thank you.
    Ehm i actually like it better that way, also used a macro to drop it under me all the time.
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    Ehm i actually like it better that way, also used a macro to drop it under me all the time.
    Same, couldn't use it without a targetting macro.
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    Jade Nixx
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    I agree with the OP; Salted Earth was a really fun skill when you could drop it at range. There was a small but satisfying skill differential between players who would just automatically drop it underneath themselves or the boss (and miss damage whenever the boss had to be moved during its duration) and people who would place it to anticipate movement, add spawns, etc such that they could move the boss without taking them out of the ground effect, or to catch extra enemies. It's not really practical/possible to do that now that it just drops at your feet like a fart.

    The ground-target interface also just made it feel like a unique input that set it apart from all the other skills that are just a simple button-press, and removing that is one more small step into degrading the actual gameplay feel of the class.
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    K'rheya Tia
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    Odin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Agreed - Crater already explained it very well.

    While I understand that there were people who had issues with the skill before and had to macro it, I don't think this would still be an issue with all the changes to ground targeted abilities which we got in 6.0. You can just pre-place your cursor and then double-tap the hotkey for easy manual placement.

    Although it would also be nice to have Salted Earth's uptime increased back to something closer to what it was prior to SHB, so that those good placement moments can really shine like in some Stromblood encounters.
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    Anime King
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    Goblin
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    I prefer the drop at feet.
    I'm on console so when it activates the cursor is always close or really far away.
    If I want to position it for future movements I'll just go there and drop it.
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    I definetly consider it worse in the current state, i undertand that some don't wanted to think much about it and place it on his feet and if the boss leave well to bad but what about those who preffer to place the aoe under the target feet or just freely place it in a more optimal way like before? both options have been removed for no reason by locking the aoe under your feet when using macros for that or on target feet worked perfectly fine, it's basically a steep back but im actually mre surprised the skill has survive despite how bad and boring is when all the other ground dots of the game has been basically obliterated or reduced to aoe situations.
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    Last edited by shao32; 01-15-2022 at 12:09 AM.

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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Satarn View Post
    Agreed - Crater already explained it very well.

    While I understand that there were people who had issues with the skill before and had to macro it, I don't think this would still be an issue with all the changes to ground targeted abilities which we got in 6.0. You can just pre-place your cursor and then double-tap the hotkey for easy manual placement.

    Although it would also be nice to have Salted Earth's uptime increased back to something closer to what it was prior to SHB, so that those good placement moments can really shine like in some Stromblood encounters.
    Unfortunately this alienates all console users.

    You can still anticipate movement and stand where you want to drop it.
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    K'rheya Tia
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    Odin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Unfortunately this alienates all console users.

    You can still anticipate movement and stand where you want to drop it.
    This would work on a ranged dps/caster, but it's not really an option when tanking, or even just fighting as melee in some cases.

    Gamepad users can still use a macro for either character or enemy-based placement, depending on preference.
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