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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    my memory is fuzzy.. but I'm remembering you as the person who wanted PVP so you could "punish" others.


    Nah.
    More so allowing players to settle differences in ways that aren't passive aggressive. Just normal, honest aggression.
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    We just spent the last few expansions uniting the people of Eorzea, dragons, the Near and Far East, Garlemald, the beast tribes, etc.. Why would we suddenly all go to war against each other? It would make everything we did previously meaningless.

    I kinda grew tired of WoW's whole "Alliance and Horde work together to defeat a common foe and are now back at each others throats." every other expansion.
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    They add PvP as mandatory in the game to progress in the MSQ I retire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espon View Post
    We just spent the last few expansions uniting the people of Eorzea, dragons, the Near and Far East, Garlemald, the beast tribes, etc.. Why would we suddenly all go to war against each other? It would make everything we did previously meaningless.

    I kinda grew tired of WoW's whole "Alliance and Horde work together to defeat a common foe and are now back at each others throats." every other expansion.
    And I find that story rather dull and trite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    More so allowing players to settle differences in ways that aren't passive aggressive. Just normal, honest aggression.
    Yeah. You wanted to gank people you had problems with. If they wanted to participate in a fair fight we already have a dueling system (yeah it's not great, but it's there). I remember you distinctly argued for a "might makes right" approach.

    The underlying problem with semi-involuntary PVP , as in I have reasons to be in the area and objectives that are not PVP-related but can be dragged into a PVP engagement at any time , is always that for one side of the engagement it's usually a detriment and most of the advantage and enjoyment goes to to the attacker.

    This kind of system is at best just something else to do in a game and almost always inspires toxic tribalism and adds decidedly negative experiences to the game for at least a third of its "participants" especially if you put rewards in that part of the game that are unavailable anywhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    As the title suggests, SE making 7.0 a pvp driven expansion would really shake up the formula and create many interesting opportunities. First the more practical being that content would have a longer shelf life given it would be more player driven.
    Yeah, I could see that.

    Also it would make the open world...
    Wait, this is about open world pvp? Didn't you already make this thread?

    I think that kind of an expansion is not the kind of adventuring that is hinted at the end of the 6.0 MSQ, nor should it in my opinion.

    Do more content for instanced pvp, but leave the open world out of it.
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    I, could honestly not think of a worse way for this game to go than to focus on PvP.

    Legit, I really can't other than perhaps Free to play.

    The vast majority of the content in this game has been PvE focused. The few attempts at PvP like Rival Wings (dead) or the Feast (hacked and exploited to all hell) has been MASSIVE failures. I mean let's be real, they didn't even update SMN skills for PvP, we still have DoTs. The do not care at all. This has led to a community that generally does not care.

    A lurch towards a PvP focus would be a ridiculous tonal and focus shift for this game I doubt would be received well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    Advantage is fair if you're willing to do something that most others aren't.

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    I feel like this is bait...
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    It really isn't that hard to treat other people like human beings.

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    I mean, I suppose that would be a really effective way to reduce those overpopulation-induced server queues..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    And I find that story rather dull and trite.
    Yep, this is bait alright.
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    Forever waiting on *new* Egis/summons (e.g. Ramuh-Egi).

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