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    MCH Overheat should activate automatically

    I think Hyperchange should be removed, Heat Blast and Auto Crossbow should activate overheat mode automatically when used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronIngot View Post
    I think Hyperchange should be removed, Heat Blast and Auto Crossbow should activate overheat mode automatically when used.
    So when you hit 50 heat, Heat Blast and Auto Crossbow light up and once pressed starts the 10 second window?

    I am so down for that. I see nothing wrong with this idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awarewolf View Post
    So when you hit 50 heat, Heat Blast and Auto Crossbow light up and once pressed starts the 10 second window?
    Yep, thats it
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    Pretty sure this is a bad attempt at trolling, but for any sensible Machinist, this is a terrible idea. Reducing the flexibility on when to Hypercharge will cause Drill, Air Anchor and Chain Saw to drift making the rotation feel terrible to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    Pretty sure this is a bad attempt at trolling, but for any sensible Machinist, this is a terrible idea. Reducing the flexibility on when to Hypercharge will cause Drill, Air Anchor and Chain Saw to drift making the rotation feel terrible to play.
    You still control when it activates by hitting Heat Blast or Autocrossbow. You misunderstood the OP.
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    You know what, I re-read it and I did, so I will apologise for that.

    With this revised mindset, it could also help in Wildfire windows. i don't know if it is still the case, but I know in ShB there were certain GCDs you did not want to end Wildfire on as the damage was registered too late, having Wildfire being able to be applied later in the GCD window could give extra time and prevent that restriction.
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    Wait? You didn't like automatically sacrificing an animation-lock's worth of Overheated's 8s duration, dropping it from max 6 (8/1.5) shots to max 5 (slightly under 7.5/1.5)?!

    Personally, I'd slightly prefer a different tack, if only because I dislike button-bloat:
    • Hypercharge Overheats your next 6 shots; 12s max duration.
    • Heat Blast, once acquired, replaces Hypercharge while Overheated.
    • Auto Crossbow, once acquired, replaces Spread Shot / Scattergun while Overheated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Wait? You didn't like automatically sacrificing an animation-lock's worth of Overheated's 8s duration, dropping it from max 6 (8/1.5) shots to max 5 (slightly under 7.5/1.5)?!

    Personally, I'd slightly prefer a different tack, if only because I dislike button-bloat:
    • Hypercharge Overheats your next 6 shots; 12s max duration.
    • Heat Blast, once acquired, replaces Hypercharge while Overheated.
    • Auto Crossbow, once acquired, replaces Spread Shot / Scattergun while Overheated.
    Yeah removing the animation and giving X amount of stacks that last Y time (like WAR Inner Release) to use Heat Blast and Auto Crossbow is also a good idea.

    How about this:
    - Get to 50 heat
    - Heat Blast and Auto Crossbow become available
    - When used they consume 50 heat and fire off right away
    - You get 5(?) overheat charges lasting ~15s
    - Each use of Heat Blast or Auto Crossbow consumes 1 charge
    - When you consume all the stacks you can use another 50 heat or continue your rotation
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronIngot View Post
    How about this:
    - Get to 50 heat
    - Heat Blast and Auto Crossbow become available
    - When used they consume 50 heat and fire off right away
    - You get 5(?) overheat charges lasting ~15s
    - Each use of Heat Blast or Auto Crossbow consumes 1 charge
    It's 2 buttons, up from 1, but the added flexibility would definitely be worth it, imo! Definitely add some further audio and visual element though so that you know when you're down to 1-2 shots, though, or else people might accidentally spam into a second round of Overheated that they'd had meant to save for raid buffs. (We see similar protection for stack-based systems already applied to all but Requiescat-Confiteor.)

    Now, the harder question, though... could we ever get back some manner of Heat mechanic that gives MCH more to do than just 1-2-3 and hit CDs as they refresh?... >.>

    :: Final bit: Let's please let the reduced-GCD of Heat Blast and Auto Crossbow scale with GCD speed.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 01-13-2022 at 03:28 PM.

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    Flexibility + An OGCD window is free.

    In the current context, it's a great idea.
    Considering SQEX didn't expanded on the heat and since we don't know their plans, it could be a nice QoL.

    The GCD that triggers overheat could also be a different one that then transforms into Heatblast.
    Plus, the animation is kinda weird, you make your lunchbox sparks then it makes your gun shot faster? Initially, it was for the turret to go Hypercharge.
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    Last edited by CKNovel; 01-13-2022 at 05:28 PM.

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