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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Change Sages Icarus please

    It's so annoying to have to click someone just to dash to them. It would be nice if it were as useful as other jobs dashes, because this one just sucks. It's especially annoying for PS5 players who do not want to play on a keyboard. I don't care if you think its better. Its just not my playstyle, and moves like this don't help. They need to remove the need to click on another player, and maybe give it an extra charge. It would go a long way to helping dodge things while we are healing and doing damage. I keep trying to get used to Icarus, but out of all of the Sage abilities, I just can't. Its not fun this way. I usually just toggle my run ability in its place instead.
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    Alyssia Rosenheim
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    It's so annoying to have to click someone just to dash to them. It would be nice if it were as useful as other jobs dashes, because this one just sucks. It's especially annoying for PS5 players who do not want to play on a keyboard. I don't care if you think its better. Its just not my playstyle, and moves like this don't help. They need to remove the need to click on another player, and maybe give it an extra charge. It would go a long way to helping dodge things while we are healing and doing damage. I keep trying to get used to Icarus, but out of all of the Sage abilities, I just can't. Its not fun this way. I usually just toggle my run ability in its place instead.
    What other classes you mean, the only class that has a non targetable dash is DNC, RPR and reaaaaaaaaaaaaally arguably DRG with Elusive. Everyone else has a Target dash or disengage, as in : DRK, GNB, PLD, MNK, SAM, BLM, BRD, SGE.


    Thank you Maxilor for reminding me that RPR is also non targeted, I literally forgot about that class (I leveled it, but dont enjoy it.)
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    Last edited by Escalon; 01-11-2022 at 09:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Escalon View Post
    What other classes you mean, the only class that has a non targetable dash is DNC and reaaaaaaaaaaaaally arguably DRG with Elusive. Everyone else has a Target dash or disengage, as in : DRK, GNB, PLD, MNK, SAM, BLM, BRD, SGE.
    Also Reaper
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    Just /ac it to some specified target, whether that's MO, TT, or a fixed party number. You have so many weave windows you can afford a macroed teleport. I personally hate untargeted teleports. Egress and Ingress are the worst; they are obviously meant to represent a gapcloser and a backstep but they are targetless so Egress will shoot you toward your target if you try to activate it while running away--which you should be able to do without having to remember to press the forward teleport button instead of the backwards teleport button.
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    I mean, if you're playing Healer, odds are you're going to have a way to easily target players...
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    My outline for a Chemist healer: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/513527-Healer-Concept-Draft-Chemist

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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    I mean, if you're playing Healer, odds are you're going to have a way to easily target players...
    Yeah, it doesn't work out as easy as you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Yeah, it doesn't work out as easy as you think.
    It... does, though? You just... target them the same way you target people to heal?

    Unless... don't tell me you only heal with AOEs as SGE? That's an entirely different issue that I'm not qualified to help with.
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    Last edited by NegativeS; 01-11-2022 at 10:34 AM.


    My outline for a Chemist healer: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/513527-Healer-Concept-Draft-Chemist

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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    It... does, though? You just... target them the same way you target people to heal?

    Unless... don't tell me you only heal with AOEs as SGE? That's an entirely different issue that I'm not qualified to help with.
    No, I don't do that. But things do not target well individually. I've the same problem with raise macros. They just don't work well and always end up on the wrong thing even though I'm healing effectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    No, I don't do that. But things do not target well individually. I've the same problem with raise macros. They just don't work well and always end up on the wrong thing even though I'm healing effectively.
    If you're using your raise macro by soft targeting someone(highlighting them in the list, without pressing X/A, whatever your confirm button is) and using your macro, it will target them for the Swift Cast, then instantly move your target back to your previous target. If you get in the practice of clicking that X/A button to confirm it's your focus, then your macro won't fail. I know because I've had it happen MANY times.

    And just highlighting someone and hitting Icarus does work the same as using an oGCD heal on the tank and going right back to DPSing.
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    Jhuno Whatt
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    As a healer you are individually targeting players to throw kardia/shields anyways , whats different?

    If its player 3 of 4 that you want to jump to you select them like you would if you were throwing a shiield on them

    Whats different?


    How fast you react???

    If you had no target and the default was dash forward , like the reaper has , how is that going to get you out of a large conal/circle/half arena attack if your facing the wrong way . having to select a friendly means you dont even need to be facing the right way.


    I suggest practice how to switch targets , and use icarus and modify its location on your hotbars for fast emergency access if you are slow to use it to escape danger
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