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  1. #4441
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Or she could have just used yknow, the echo, that huge plot relevant thing that we’re specifically told there can be used to show others memories.
    I also find it odd that we apparently spoke our recollection rather than they all just use the echo to see our memories and we see what that looks like from the outside perspective for a change. Takes like 2 seconds then we continue the conversation. Nah let's talk and fade to black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Or she could have just used yknow, the echo, that huge plot relevant thing that we’re specifically told there can be used to show others memories.
    The echo? That thing unfortunately fell through a plot hole and was never seen again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    I also find it odd that we apparently spoke our recollection rather than they all just use the echo to see our memories and we see what that looks like from the outside perspective for a change. Takes like 2 seconds then we continue the conversation. Nah let's talk and fade to black.
    Every day I think about this expansion it somehow manages to fall apart even more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    The echo? That thing unfortunately fell through a plot hole and was never seen again.
    *uses echo to show it falling*
    *sad music plays*
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  5. #4445
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    I also find it odd that we apparently spoke our recollection rather than they all just use the echo to see our memories and we see what that looks like from the outside perspective for a change. Takes like 2 seconds then we continue the conversation. Nah let's talk and fade to black.
    Then how would they showcase their animated steaming tea that goes cold because we are talking so long that everyone has forgotten to drink it?
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  6. #4446
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    I also find it odd that we apparently spoke our recollection rather than they all just use the echo to see our memories and we see what that looks like from the outside perspective for a change. Takes like 2 seconds then we continue the conversation. Nah let's talk and fade to black.
    Emet-Selch: This is preposterous! I would never become a megalomaniacal murderer like that!
    Hythlodaeus: Perhaps we should view his/her/their memories firsthand?
    Emet-Selch: Why would I want to do that?

    Seriously though, I was disappointed that we went to Elpis and didn't get any training on how to further control the Echo. How cool would it be if we were able to use it on a more conscious basis?
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  7. #4447
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    Quote Originally Posted by PawPaw View Post
    Then how would they showcase their animated steaming tea that goes cold because we are talking so long that everyone has forgotten to drink it?
    Oof, fair. That would indeed be a tragic loss.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnaviAnael View Post
    Emet-Selch: This is preposterous! I would never become a megalomaniacal murderer like that!
    Hythlodaeus: Perhaps we should view his/her/their memories firsthand?
    Emet-Selch: Why would I want to do that?

    Seriously though, I was disappointed that we went to Elpis and didn't get any training on how to further control the Echo. How cool would it be if we were able to use it on a more conscious basis?
    The one thing I've been wanting since ARR. "Can someone tell me how to control this damn thing? I'm tired of passing out randomly!"
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  8. #4448
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    So uh, why did Venat choose to try and grab Meteion with just her bare hand when she was chasing after her on Argos, when she could just generate a whip and yoink her from far away? Or hell, she could've just conjured her sword and slashed her, seeing as how she had already gotten within inches of her. By that point she could've easily hit her with her sword.

    Or better yet, just blast her with magic.

    Literally anything else besides her bare bloody hands.
    Personally, I couldn't understand why there was this gaping hole standing open long enough for 2 people to ride on dogs from below and across the platform but it never occurred to Emet-Selch to grab Hythlo, snap to conjure his flying horse and exit the same way.
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  9. #4449
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    Quote Originally Posted by PawPaw View Post
    Personally, I couldn't understand why there was this gaping hole standing open long enough for 2 people to ride on dogs from below and across the platform but it never occurred to Emet-Selch to grab Hythlo, snap to conjure his flying horse and exit the same way.
    Or.....teleport. Which they do constantly throughout that dungeon....
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  10. #4450
    Player YukikoKurosawa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Or.....teleport. Which they do constantly throughout that dungeon....
    IIRC there was some sort of dampening magic in the facility that rendered everyone besides Hermes weaker hence why they couldn't just teleport out. I think. I would have to go back and verify this again.
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