What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[kpxmanifesto]

My friends were so disappointed with Devs that they decided to use the "ESC" key for the rest of the story.
Because it's horrble.
The Madness of a powerful God has destroyed your world. There is no discussion, no voting, only power to sweep through everyone's lives.
All because she thought it was a good idea.
In fact, most people on Earth are suffering from this kind of thing.
The humans lost their paradise because of a word from someone in power.
They die, they suffer, they don't even know why.
And finally, they have to call it "God," father or mother.
The writers are lucky they don't have to go through this.
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English is my second language, I hope to express my thoughts well.
Because my English is not good, so I now just come to the forum, this will probably be my last post.

Yes, I definitely agree with this. Plenty of people are going to have an issue with a character that appoints themself judge, jury, and executioner

[RyuDragnier]

Yes, I definitely agree with this. Plenty of people are going to have an issue with a character that appoints themself judge, jury, and executioner

Yet people don't have an issue with Emet-Selch, who does the same thing, ironically.

[kpxmanifesto]

Yet people don't have an issue with Emet-Selch, who does the same thing, ironically.

Luckily, we get to "kill" him.

[PawPaw]

Yet people don't have an issue with Emet-Selch, who does the same thing, ironically.

You realize it's possible to like, even love a character and not condone their actions on a personal, real-life level, right?

[Allegor]

To be entirely fair, Hydaelyn herself stated she's not 'the good guy' and constantly lamented/doubted her course of actions, whereas Emet and the other ascians couldn't care less if they tried and never hesitated to commit countless genocides. It's not much, but at least she's self aware rather than self righteous /shrug

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

To be entirely fair, Hydaelyn herself stated she's not 'the good guy' and constantly lamented/doubted her course of actions, whereas Emet and the other ascians couldn't care less if they tried and never hesitated to commit countless genocides. It's not much, but at least she's self aware rather than self righteous /shrug

The problem is, no one in the story ever calls her out for her actions. Not even Emet-Selch, at the last; he even compliments her, despite all the suffering she caused to him and the two other Unsundered.

I love Venat as a character, truly. But the way everyone was written to just not question her whatsoever or even condemn her actions as the cruelty it was - that she even says it was - is... a really icky feeling.

[PawPaw]

To be entirely fair, Hydaelyn herself stated she's not 'the good guy' and constantly lamented/doubted her course of actions, whereas Emet and the other ascians couldn't care less if they tried and never hesitated to commit countless genocides. It's not much, but at least she's self aware rather than self righteous /shrug

I wouldn't call her acknowledgement of her crimes "constant". She does so once and Y'shtola immediately dismisses it at though we would have to be absolutely mad to even think for a second that she was in the wrong. The difference in the way the game treats two characters who both committed genocide is the issue here, not which one was more repentant. One is condemned to be a villain for trying to repair his world and, in the process, committing genocide. While the other betrays the very same world and splits it apart to begin with (incidentally, also knowingly creating the worlds the first character destroys). This is also committing genocide but is she a villain, like the other person was? No, now she's a hero and genocide is "OK" as long as it's being done for our benefit. And the game never lets you think for a second that this is not the right way to think or feel. It's a sickening double standard.

[Lauront]

To be entirely fair, Hydaelyn herself stated she's not 'the good guy' and constantly lamented/doubted her course of actions, whereas Emet and the other ascians couldn't care less if they tried and never hesitated to commit countless genocides. It's not much, but at least she's self aware rather than self righteous /shrug

I don't really buy that. She only ever explicitly apologises to the sundered, and speculating, I think in part it was because life after the sundering turned out to be worse than she could've imagined. Not the unsundered whose world she destroyed and whose people she ended, which she treats as a necessity. At that point, an apology that is brushed past by Y'shtola and never commented upon elsewhere means little to me.

I wouldn't call her acknowledgement of her crimes "constant". She does so once and Y'shtola immediately dismisses it at though we would have to be absolutely mad to even think for a second that she was in the wrong. The difference in the way the game treats two characters who both committed genocide is the issue here, not which one was more repentant. One is condemned to be a villain for trying to repair his world and, in the process, committing genocide. While the other betrays the very same world and splits it apart to begin with (incidentally, also knowingly creating the worlds the first character destroys). This is also committing genocide but is she a villain, like the other person was? No, now she's a hero and genocide is "OK" as long as it's being done for our benefit. And the game never lets you think for a second that this is not the right way to think or feel. It's a sickening double standard.

There is this too. Apologies are fine and all but at the end of the day she is responsible for all of this, including putting Emet in a position where he sees his world and people torn up inexplicably and reduced to forms he no longer recognises and struggles to relate to, knowing he'd go on to perform the Rejoinings with the rest of them. Yet the story treatment of the two could not be more of a polar opposite.

[Skyborne]

I now half-wonder what the reaction would be to an ascian who was actually genuinely apologetic and regretful for his/her actions, but nonetheless committed to them convinced it was the right thing. "I'm sorry, little ones, but the rejoinings must continue for your sake..." "With each Ardor, we bring horror and injustice beyond words. Yet, it means one less that our shattered people must suffer. One more piece of ourselves reclaimed."

No doubt, in my head, there would be plenty of "Being sorry is not good enough!" "Nothing can justify it!"

I mean, Elidibus could've been that, his portrayal from 'smug manipulative bastard' to 5.3 was already pretty jarring.

[PawPaw]

I now half-wonder what the reaction would be to an ascian who was actually genuinely apologetic and regretful for his/her actions, but nonetheless committed to them convinced it was the right thing. "I'm sorry, little ones, but the rejoinings must continue for your sake..."

No doubt, in my head, there would be plenty of "Being sorry is not good enough!" "Nothing can justify it!"

I mean, Elidibus could've been that, his portrayal from 'smug manipulative bastard' to 5.3 was already pretty jarring.

If only Emet had called us his "brave little spark " earlier instead of being a grumpy grump, everything would have been just fine then!